# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2381 "2012-12-28T13:22:21Z")
:rofl
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### Author:  [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2382 "2012-12-28T17:01:10Z")
If they made a semi-auto 7.62.x39 based on a Vector platform (or action at least), I’d be all over it. One thing that always bugged me about AR is that clunky bolt-spring mechanism that has to be housed in the stock, despite it being gas operated. AK and most others don’t have that issue.
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### Author:  [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2383 "2012-12-28T17:06:19Z")
> [@Vodka and cranberry juice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vodka-and-cranberry-juice/51310/68):
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> Don’t be talking shit/nonsense in the gun thread. The one thread that I’LL tear you a new ass for doing so…
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> get facts, read facts again, post. In that order. Kthnxbye
:rofl
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### Author:  [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2384 "2012-12-28T18:11:42Z")
> [@In our new house (finally)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-our-new-house-finally/46093/67):
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> i _believe_ that’s an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), Paratrooper style. it is most certainly NOT a .22LR,
Wow, you must play call of duty.:Idiots
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2385 "2012-12-28T18:12:54Z")
“I think that’s one of those HK MP5 40 Navy suppressed tactical versions with the fixed composite stock. No way that’s a .22LR”
Pfft…STFU+GTFO is my opinion if you don’t know WTF you’re talking about in this thread. One of the untainted threads in this forum right now, no assumption please.
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2386 "2012-12-28T18:13:28Z")
> [@FS: 2005 Evolution, Evo VIII Yellow](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2005-evolution-evo-viii-yellow/50187/70):
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> If they made a semi-auto 7.62.x39 based on a Vector platform (or action at least), I’d be all over it. One thing that always bugged me about AR is that clunky bolt-spring mechanism that has to be housed in the stock, despite it being gas operated. AK and most others don’t have that issue.
I couldn’t care less about the AR buffer tube, spring, and buffer being in the stock since we can’t have folding stocks here in NY unless pre-ban, plus nowadays it legitimately is a superior firearm platform. Long gone are the days of the AKs being more reliable given current technology going into the AR.
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2387 "2012-12-28T18:20:23Z")
> [@Destroyed F20 rebuild](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/destroyed-f20-rebuild/51305/27):
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> Pfft…STFU+GTFO is my opinion if you don’t know WTF you’re talking about in this thread. **One of the untainted threads in this forum right now, no assumption please.**
Gun owners got their shit together lol.
KEEP IT TOGETHER SKIDMARK.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2388 "2012-12-28T18:24:06Z")
(posts moved ^)
How does AR operate without a buttstock, such as pistol models?
IE this:
Is that legal on my preban?
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2389 "2012-12-28T18:32:20Z")
> [@Lemon law?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lemon-law/51349/19):
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> (posts moved ^)
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> How does AR operate without a buttstock, such as pistol models?
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> IE this:
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> [IMG][http://shop.nordiccomp.com/images/PICT4600.jpg](http://shop.nordiccomp.com/images/PICT4600.jpg)
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> Is that legal on my preban?
Any AR that’s not a .22 and MAYBE 9mm requires the “buttstock” or at least a buffer tube w/ buffer and spring. Pistol models have shorter buffer tubes, but they’re still there. Otherwise, an AR will not function w/ a folding stock.
While that stock would be legal on your preban as long as it meets minimum overall length (26") requirements, but would not function.
Also: You can have a folding stock on a semi-auto as long as it cannot fire from the folding position, pre or post ban.
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### Author:  [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2390 "2012-12-28T18:45:26Z")
> [@Broken Dog Tail. help?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/broken-dog-tail-help/51356/4):
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> I couldn’t care less about the AR buffer tube, spring, and buffer being in the stock since we can’t have folding stocks here in NY unless pre-ban, plus nowadays it legitimately is a superior firearm platform. Long gone are the days of the AKs being more reliable given current technology going into the AR.
Depends on the purpose, IMO - as far as one being superior to the other that is. Since I don’t shoot anything deadlier than paper to me it boils do to cost of ownership and looks. The stock bugs me as an esthetic/engineering issue more than than anything else :lol
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### Author:  [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2391 "2012-12-28T18:50:38Z")
> [@Destroyed F20 rebuild](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/destroyed-f20-rebuild/51305/27):
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> Pfft…STFU+GTFO is my opinion if you don’t know WTF you’re talking about in this thread. One of the untainted threads in this forum right now, no assumption please.
Since I don’t know either I figure asking couldn’t hurt - how do you guys tell that it’s a 22 by just that one picture? There must be some giveaway, but I don’t know enough about small calibers to find it.
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2392 "2012-12-28T18:53:45Z")
> [@Lemon law?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lemon-law/51349/19):
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> (posts moved ^)
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> How does AR operate without a buttstock, such as pistol models?
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> IE this:
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> Is that legal on my preban?
Most AR pistols use a proprietary stubby bolt carrier and an accompanying stub buffer in the upper itself to get the no buffer tube look… Others use a slightly shorter carrier with a short tube/buffer/spring setup(like the one cossey posted a picture of)
Essentially the pistols short stroke and they require fine gas system tuning to function correctly. Some guys have actually been hand loading subsonic .223/5.56 rounds and running suppressed with epic results in that setup 🙂
Is that stock legal on your preban…yes as long as your barrel is at least 16" breech to muzzle which also maintains the 26" min OAL.
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### Author:  [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2393 "2012-12-28T20:00:57Z")
> [@Destroyed F20 rebuild](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/destroyed-f20-rebuild/51305/28):
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> Since I don’t know either I figure asking couldn’t hurt - how do you guys tell that it’s a 22 by just that one picture? There must be some giveaway, but I don’t know enough about small calibers to find it.
That’s Adams gun.
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### Author:  [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2394 "2012-12-28T20:03:28Z")
> [@So you're mad...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-youre-mad/51355/34):
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> That’s Adams gun.
:rofl
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2395 "2012-12-28T20:16:28Z")
> [@Destroyed F20 rebuild](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/destroyed-f20-rebuild/51305/28):
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> Since I don’t know either I figure asking couldn’t hurt - how do you guys tell that it’s a 22 by just that one picture? There must be some giveaway, but I don’t know enough about small calibers to find it.
> [@So you're mad...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-youre-mad/51355/34):
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> That’s Adams gun.
Yeah that’s my GSG-522 that I did more custom modifications to than most people have off-shelf aftermarket parts on their AR-15’s. There are subtle differences between an actual MP5K/40 and a GSG to tell them apart. Same with those M249/G36/xxxxx skin and stock conversions used for the 10-22 guts. Hence why I get a little ticked in this thread when people perk up with stupid know-it/no-fucking-way type comments before doing some research or just plain looking at the damn firearm a bit(coughskidcough).
Love me my GSG. Best thing JVG ever sold :rofl
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2396 "2012-12-28T20:35:34Z")
I think he was referring to the other monstrosity above…
However new subject.
:ahh
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2397 "2012-12-29T13:56:21Z")
Just found myself my next purchase
[ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fACB3g9cc4[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fACB3g9cc4%5B/ame%5D)
{probably illegal in NY) :rofl
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### Author:  [@Iant333](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Iant333)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2398 "2012-12-29T17:06:51Z")
Since I have to buy a handgun to get my pistol permit in NY I just bought one today.
It’s a 1977 FN/Browning Hi-power in 9mm. It isn’t the one in the pic obviously, looks exactly the same though. It looks like it basically sat in someones safe since it was made and I only paid $600 for it including 4 13rd magazines.
Cant wait for my pistol permit stuff to go through now. I’ve heard from most people that Washington County doesn’t take too long. Hopefully I get it all set by spring.
And I got both my AK kits in the mail, just have to wait for the barrels from Green Mountain Barrels to come. I want to get those put together by spring too.
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### Author:  [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2399 "2012-12-29T18:41:20Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/1646):
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> Just found myself my next purchase
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fACB3g9cc4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fACB3g9cc4)
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> {probably illegal in NY) :rofl
they aren’t, i have one.
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### Author:  [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2400 "2012-12-31T08:12:43Z")
Seeing that almost everywhere is sold out, would this be a good buy?
What I want to be able to do: mount sight/flashlight (or green laser)/ bi-pod
[http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/complete-uppers/psa-6-8-hf-t12-madness-16-mid-length-chf-stripped-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html](http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/complete-uppers/psa-6-8-hf-t12-madness-16-mid-length-chf-stripped-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html)
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