# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 129
### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2561 "2013-01-14T18:23:21Z")
> [@Schools starting soon!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/schools-starting-soon/51496/17):
>
> But even if that happened, a bolt action single shot rifle can still be loaded quickly too. Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly got 3 rounds off from a bolt action rifle. Where do you stop?
>
> Personally I think all this effort should be curbed towards those with mental health issues and what cases need to be regulated with gun ownership. But, like always, _ **if someone wants a gun they will get one** _.
Bingo…
And as far as they bolt action rifles…someone should show these dumb politicians what the 'Mad Minute" was. Might wake a few of them up.
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2562 "2013-01-14T18:27:59Z")
I didn’t know what that was until I just looked it up.
I’ll be trying it next time I’ve got the .270 out.
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2563 "2013-01-14T18:38:24Z")
38 22. “Assault weapon” means [(a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an
39 ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the
40 following characteristics:
41 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
42 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
43 the weapon;
44 (iii) a bayonet mount;
45 (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
46 flash suppressor;
47 (v) a grenade launcher; or
48 (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following
49 characteristics:
50 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
51 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
52 the weapon;
53 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
54 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
Well looks like the definition of assault weapon hasn’t changed. Mag limit is in there somewhere… there is some nonsense about shotgun legality and other shit. It’s a lot to read and it isn’t easy to read.
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### Author:  [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2564 "2013-01-14T18:44:04Z")
the bill [http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default\_fld&bn=A02388&term=2013&Summary=Y&Text=Y](http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld&bn=A02388&term=2013&Summary=Y&Text=Y)
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2565 "2013-01-14T19:02:16Z")
stripper clips FTW…lol
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2566 "2013-01-14T19:02:59Z")
So far I read the beginning… if you have a mental disease (what constitutes that? BTW, a therapist is required to call NYS and report if he/she feels you may be a threat… confidentialy does not apply, the SHALL), have a restraining order against you, an order of protection against you, or the court find you may use OR MAY THREATEN to use, it can order surrender. The court can find that someone “may threaten”?
No more private sales of even shot guns, without proper path thru govt, unless to child or spouse or parent. For which a dealer can charge up to $10 to process for you.
… and so I read on
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2567 "2013-01-14T19:15:00Z")
wow… alot of bullshit to go thru
it APPEARS "Assult Weapon " now includes alot more than before…potentially including Pre-Ban stuff in some cases… and now
(A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
44 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
45 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
46 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF
47 THE WEAPON;
48 (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
49 (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
50 NON-TRIGGER HAND;
51 (V) A BAYONET MOUNT;
52 (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED
53 BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR
54 MUZZLE COMPENSATOR;
55 (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR
thats just part of it
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### Author:  [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2568 "2013-01-14T19:15:25Z")
I hope my preorder on lowers will be considering grandfathered since they were paid a couple weeks ago.
For the first time ever I’m strongly wanting to get out of this state
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### Author:  [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2569 "2013-01-14T19:27:16Z")
i may actually lose my shit tonight.
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### Author:  [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2570 "2013-01-14T19:30:49Z")
Hey wayne wanna sell that 10rd mag? lol
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### Author:  [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2571 "2013-01-14T19:33:23Z")
Wow… This state is really going to shit…
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### Author:  [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2572 "2013-01-14T19:33:25Z")
no.
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2573 "2013-01-14T19:34:29Z")
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO TRANSFERS ANY SUCH
12 WEAPON OR LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION DEVICE TO AN INDIVIDUAL INSIDE NEW
13 YORK STATE OR WITHOUT COMPLYING WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH
14 SHALL BE GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR UNLESS SUCH LARGE CAPACITY
15 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, THE POSSESSION OF WHICH IS MADE ILLEGAL BY
16 THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARA-
17 GRAPH, IS TRANSFERRED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAP-
18 TER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH.
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2574 "2013-01-14T19:35:39Z")
1. “Large capacity ammunition feeding device” means a magazine, belt,
22 drum, feed strip, or similar device, [manufactured after September thir-
23 teenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four,] that (A) has a capacity of, or
24 that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
25 rounds of ammunition, OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI-
26 TION, OR © IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
27 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A
28 CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
29 MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
So if you bought pre-ban mags before today, you might be ok???
Doubt it…Ill try to keep reading
EDIT more on pre-ban mags
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI-
24 TY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
25 NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
26 LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER
27 OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
28 A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
29 MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
30 AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT SUCH DEVICE IS OF SUCH
31 A CHARACTER THAT IT MAY LAWFULLY BE POSSESSED AND WHO SURRENDERS OR
32 LAWFULLY DISPOSES OF SUCH DEVICE WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF BEING NOTIFIED BY
33 LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS THAT SUCH POSSESSION IS
34 UNLAWFUL SHALL NOT BE GUILTY OF THIS OFFENSE. IT SHALL BE A REBUTTABLE
35 PRESUMPTION THAT SUCH PERSON KNOWS THAT SUCH LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION
36 FEEDING DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED IF HE OR SHE HAS BEEN
37 CONTACTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COUNTY LICENSING OFFICIALS AND INFORMED
38 THAT SUCH DEVICE MAY NOT BE LAWFULLY POSSESSED.
7 rounds:
```
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION
```
43 FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
44 DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
45 THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR
46 CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI-
47 TION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
48 IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
49 POSSESSED WITHIN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE PERSON SO POSSESSING THE
50 DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF A VIOLATION AND SUBJECT
51 TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
52 A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
53 TERM OF UP TO THREE MONTHS IMPRISONMENT.
54 IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
55 POSSESSED IN ANY LOCATION OTHER THAN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR, THE
56 PERSON SO POSSESSING THE DEVICE SHALL, FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BE GUILTY OF
S. 2230 25 A. 2388
```
1 A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A FINE OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A
2 TERM OF UP TO SIX MONTHS IMPRISONMENT, AND FOR A SECOND OFFENSE, BE
3 GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.
```
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2575 "2013-01-14T19:39:31Z")
A PERSON IS GUILTY OF CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A FIREARM WHEN HE OR SHE:
8 (1) POSSESSES ANY FIREARM OR; (2) LAWFULLY POSSESSES A FIREARM PRIOR TO
9 THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN
10 WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION SUBJECT TO THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS OF
11 SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AND KNOWINGLY
12 FAILS TO REGISTER SUCH FIREARM PURSUANT TO SUCH SUBDIVISION.
13 CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A FIREARM IS A CLASS E FELONY.
By BY private sale / unreg’d guns
and more:
(8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
18 FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
19 DEVICE SHALL NOT INCLUDE AN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE LAWFULLY POSSESSED
20 BY SUCH PERSON BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF
21 TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION, THAT HAS A CAPACI-
22 TY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN
23 SEVEN BUT LESS THAN ELEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, OR THAT WAS MANUFAC-
24 TURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, THAT
25 HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO
26 ACCEPT, MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; OR
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### Author:  [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2576 "2013-01-14T19:42:56Z")
I hope it doesn’t pass I really do
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2577 "2013-01-14T19:52:37Z")
By reading that, you guys can’t even legally own a Ruger 10/22. Wow.
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2578 "2013-01-14T19:52:49Z")
and for you permit holders:
) ALL LICENSEES SHALL BE RECERTIFIED TO THE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE
30 EVERY FIVE YEARS THEREAFTER. ANY LICENSE ISSUED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
31 DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
32 THIS PARAGRAPH SHALL BE RECERTIFIED BY THE LICENSEE ON OR BEFORE JANUARY
33 THIRTY-FIRST, TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN, AND NOT LESS THAN ONE YEAR PRIOR TO
34 SUCH DATE, THE STATE POLICE SHALL SEND A NOTICE TO ALL LICENSE HOLDERS
35 WHO HAVE NOT RECERTIFIED BY SUCH TIME.
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2579 "2013-01-14T19:53:39Z")
> [@The one thing I will miss about this job.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-one-thing-i-will-miss-about-this-job/51501/10):
>
> By reading that, you guys can’t even legally own a Ruger 10/22. Wow.
there are some exemptions…pehaps the .22 is exempt, i read something but passed over.
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2580 "2013-01-14T19:54:58Z")
Ill end here…but here it is:
REGISTRATION
. REGISTRATION. (A) AN OWNER OF A WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (E)
12 OR (F) OF SUBDIVISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER,
13 POSSESSED BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
14 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH, MUST MAKE AN
15 APPLICATION TO REGISTER SUCH WEAPON WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF STATE
16 POLICE, IN THE MANNER PROVIDED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR BY AMENDING A
17 LICENSE ISSUED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE EFFECTIVE
18 DATE OF THIS SUBDIVISION EXCEPT ANY WEAPON DEFINED UNDER SUBPARAGRAPH
19 (VI) OF PARAGRAPH (G) OF SUBDIVISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF
20 THIS CHAPTER TRANSFERRED INTO THE STATE MAY BE REGISTERED AT ANY TIME,
21 PROVIDED SUCH WEAPONS ARE REGISTERED WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF THEIR TRANS-
22 FER INTO THE STATE. REGISTRATION INFORMATION SHALL INCLUDE THE REGIS-
23 TRANT’S NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, GENDER, RACE, RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS, SOCIAL
REMOVED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT…
…
SUCH PERSON WHO UNKNOWINGLY
S. 2230 34 A. 2388
```
1 FAILS TO VALIDLY REGISTER SUCH WEAPON WITHIN SUCH ONE YEAR PERIOD SHALL
2 BE GIVEN A WARNING BY AN APPROPRIATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY ABOUT
3 SUCH FAILURE AND GIVEN THIRTY DAYS IN WHICH TO APPLY TO REGISTER SUCH
4 WEAPON OR TO SURRENDER IT. A FAILURE TO APPLY OR SURRENDER SUCH WEAPON
5 WITHIN SUCH THIRTY-DAY PERIOD SHALL RESULT IN SUCH WEAPON BEING REMOVED
6 BY AN APPROPRIATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY AND DECLARED A NUISANCE.
```
24 SECURITY NUMBER AND A DESCRIPTION OF EACH WEAPON BEING REGISTERED. A
25 REGISTRATION OF ANY WEAPON DEFINED UNDER SUBPARAGRAPH (VI) OF PARAGRAPH
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