# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.

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**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2941 "2013-08-23T04:53:32Z")

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> [@getting stuck with a Dodge Charger for a rental...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-stuck-with-a-dodge-charger-for-a-rental/53334/9):
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> I went trap shooting last fall with a group of friend and one of the kids there had just picked up a Beretta not sure exactly what model it was
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> Was a 12g, honestly was a little heavier on the recoil than the 20 gauge I was using all day but compared to the other 12gauge guns Ive shot it was by far the most comfortable.

No need to say honestly lol, I’d hope a 12ga had more recoil than a 20ga.

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2942 "2013-08-23T04:55:47Z")

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My .22 doesn’t kick as much as the .270… Dunno why

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**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2943 "2013-08-23T05:24:16Z")

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> [@FS: 106 West brook drive: Moving Sale.....no prices just offers\* updates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-106-west-brook-drive-moving-sale-no-prices-just-offers-updates/51410/37):
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> you can still build a ar. you could say the build date was last year if you want to reg. but i dont advise that. or use a ny safer grip to avoid legal issues.
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> buy a 80% lower mill it out or drill press or dremel. even could use hand tools. **and they ship uncompleted lowers to your house. no ffl needed.** just like any other part of a semi ar.
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> buy upper at a gun store or build your own, buy lower parts kit, buffer tube kit, and a mag. bang you have a ar. so easy a lil kid could do it.
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> if you have a 3d printer or access to one. print your own lower. theres enough designs out there for free.
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> also theres some shops that sell %100 lowers but they are marked post safe act in the vin #s. so if you assemble it after 1/15/13 its illegal if you use a traditional pistol grip. but you could use ny safer grips that are legal.
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> all the parts for a ar15 are still legal. but if you have them assembled then its a another story. all parts can be shipped to your house too. unless you get one complete then its considered a gun and requires a ffl to ship.
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> ak parts kits and alot of other guns are easy to find too and %100 legal to ship to your home without a ffl. if the lower or the gun is complete they cant ship to your home.

I am 99% sure that under the law the lower (stripped or complete) has to go through an FFL because it contains the serial number.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2944 "2013-08-23T05:31:08Z")

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He’s talking about unfinished lowers, aka still need machining work.

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2945 "2013-08-23T05:40:28Z")

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> [@FS: 1995 Honda Civic LX/EX 4 Door 5 spd PICS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1995-honda-civic-lx-ex-4-door-5-spd-pics/52585/25):
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> No need to say honestly lol, I’d hope a 12ga had more recoil than a 20ga.

LOL i meant from like being comfortable on my shoulder feeling the recoil… Worded wrong.

i felt it a bit more in my shoulder but it was not nearly as straining as some of the other 12 gauges I have shot.

It was great with trap too… I was using an over under, dont recall which one that It had been real good all day. I’m guessing the choke on the beretta was a bit tighter (think im refering to the right thing?) as I seemed to get more dead on shots rather than a few “clips” of a bird that I was getting with the other guns like they were scattering more.

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**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2946 "2013-08-23T05:51:39Z")

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> [@FS: 106 West brook drive: Moving Sale.....no prices just offers\* updates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-106-west-brook-drive-moving-sale-no-prices-just-offers-updates/51410/37):
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> you can still build a ar. you could say the build date was last year if you want to reg. but i dont advise that. or use a ny safer grip to avoid legal issues.
> 
> buy a 80% lower mill it out or drill press or dremel. even could use hand tools. and they ship uncompleted lowers to your house. no ffl needed. just like any other part of a semi ar.
> 
> buy upper at a gun store or build your own, buy lower parts kit, buffer tube kit, and a mag. bang you have a ar. so easy a lil kid could do it.
> 
> if you have a 3d printer or access to one. print your own lower. theres enough designs out there for free.
> 
> also theres some shops that sell %100 lowers but they are marked post safe act in the vin #s. so if you assemble it after 1/15/13 its illegal if you use a traditional pistol grip. but you could use ny safer grips that are legal.
> 
> all the parts for a ar15 are still legal. but if you have them assembled then its a another story. all parts can be shipped to your house too. unless you get one complete then its considered a gun and requires a ffl to ship.
> 
> ak parts kits and alot of other guns are easy to find too and %100 legal to ship to your home without a ffl. if the lower or the gun is complete they cant ship to your home.

firearms have serial numbers, not vin codes. printing an ar lower is cool and all but unless you have access to good quality material or resin, you had better have more spare lowers than mags. not to mention none of what you suggested really pertained to my question directed toward Adam. which was concerning taking a normal ar and making it “featureless”, not building or buying a new one, let alone forging documents to violate the law and wind up in prison…aside from that little bit it was a great post filled with tons of helpful info as always.

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**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2947 "2013-08-24T20:49:51Z")

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> **[Marchione-Amicus.pdf](https://www.nysrpa.org/files/SAFE/Marchione-Amicus.pdf)**
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**Author:** ![daknut93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daknut93/32/6743_2.png) [@daknut93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/daknut93)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2948 "2013-09-04T21:26:21Z")

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whats a good price to pay for a mossberg 500 tatical. lets say fair condition. hasnt been fired in meny years. all composite

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**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2949 "2013-09-05T03:35:15Z")

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> [@FS:1997 Volvo 850 5spd $3500 120k miles](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1997-volvo-850-5spd-3500-120k-miles/53201/9):
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> whats a good price to pay for a mossberg 500 tatical. lets say fair condition. hasnt been fired in meny years. all composite

300 to 350 if it’s totally mint with the adjustable stock

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**Author:** ![daknut93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daknut93/32/6743_2.png) [@daknut93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/daknut93)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2950 "2013-09-05T09:55:11Z")

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its deff not mint the saftey needs to be fixed and theres no stock just pistol gripits.been sitting for a long time with no shells sent through it. im thinking like 200 but its his call

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2951 "2013-09-05T10:00:49Z")

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anyone on here taking the Utah pistol course?

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2952 "2013-09-05T15:59:42Z")

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I’m considering it.

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**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2953 "2013-09-06T05:39:12Z")

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> [@Say hello to my new....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/say-hello-to-my-new/53399/22):
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> anyone on here taking the Utah pistol course?

what woulod the benefit be? (not meant to sound douchey, i actually want to know)

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**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2954 "2013-09-06T09:59:20Z")

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I’ve taken It and have Utah and az permits

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2955 "2013-09-06T10:05:30Z")

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it lets you carry in 34 states. Ny doesn’t let you carry in as many other states. I’m taking it the 14th.

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2956 "2013-09-06T10:07:56Z")

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**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2957 "2013-09-06T11:01:14Z")

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ok so lately i’ve been wanting to get my pistol permit as well as a carry permit, in order to take the utah carry concealed course would i already have to have a NY pistol permit, or does the utah course cover me for owning and carrying in NYS?

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2958 "2013-09-06T11:11:39Z")

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You can take the Utah class and get a permit as a non resident for utah, but you still won’t be able to buy a pistol or own a pistol in ny without a ny permit.

NY does not accept any other state’s permits.

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2959 "2013-09-06T11:12:14Z")

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fyi a ny pistol permit is a concealed carry permit. there is no open carry in ny.

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**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2960 "2013-09-06T11:52:59Z")

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> [@Families new house. some quick pictures](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/families-new-house-some-quick-pictures/53439/3):
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> fyi a ny pistol permit is a concealed carry permit. there is no open carry in ny.

oh, i knew that they don’t allow open carry but i thought there were 2 seperate permits, one for ownership/range use, and another for conceal carry…thanks for the info…somewhat relevant question: what pistol would you guys who do carry recommend, i have been researching glocks and i have heard a lot of good and bad about the newest generation, im also torn between .45 and 9mm, and im not even sure i could get one in this state but an FNH 5.7 is on the wishlist as well.

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