# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3021 "2013-11-29T11:08:10Z")
whatever floats your upper. lol there isnt anything cheap about building an ar. Having it un-numbered when 2014 doesnt go as planed with this registration bullshit is much more important than saving $30 on a $1400 build, to me atleast. ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3022 "2013-11-29T11:13:40Z")
> [@Anyone know Brian Krakowski?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-brian-krakowski/53687/6): > > I think your confusing the point to the 80% idea. The idea is to have an unnumbered gun so you dont need to register it, you cant for that matter. In doing so, you have to be the one with your hand on the drill press or the mill, nobody but you. Once completed and operational its considered a firearm. You can use/own it without needed a serial number. But it cant be transfered, sold, gifted, or anything with a serial number, the FFL will send you packing. It needs to be distroyed if you dont want it anymore, or you need to apply for an SN and then its like any normal lower, and those rules apply. > > and i saw your last reply just after i hit post. You are missing alot of the grey area. You can still buy an “assult weapon” from a dealer or a private party AT the dealer… the safe act says you can own them still, you just need to register it on Jan 15th. So I assume (not a good thing with guns now a days) that durring that process the FFL will mandate that you must register the thing with NYS while your there or your not leaving with the firearm. > > I am waiting for Adam or the others to chime in. I am still new at this, but like everything I sift through with fine grain mesh to make sure I am accurate. Wrong. You can not buy them and haven’t been able to buy them since the law came out. Already owned ones can stay but need to be registered. You can buy safe act compliant ones now but you haven’t been able to go buy a normal ar in 11 months… ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3023 "2013-11-29T11:16:06Z")
v8’s right. you have to have owned it prior to feb. Enjoy those rifle stocks kids. :facepalm ---
**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3024 "2013-11-29T11:18:02Z")
> [@USA vs ARG mens basketball semifinal LIVE ONLINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/usa-vs-arg-mens-basketball-semifinal-live-online/53688/5): > > whatever floats your upper. lol > > there isnt anything cheap about building an ar. Having it un-numbered when 2014 doesnt go as planed with this registration bullshit is much more important than saving $30 on a $1400 build, to me atleast. this is true. i like the 80% lowers and parts because if something were to happen and registration is required you dont need to register machined parts. but with a days notice you can assemble as many as you need. double safety ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3025 "2013-11-30T09:21:04Z")
What are people’s opinions on Adam’s Arms piston uppers? ---
**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3026 "2013-11-30T11:08:36Z")
> [@What are you doing this weekend?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-doing-this-weekend/53686/28): > > What are people’s opinions on Adam’s Arms piston uppers? piston ar = hype ---
**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3027 "2013-11-30T13:20:44Z")
Lets try something new, ill set my budget between 800-1000 for a complete ar build. Copy/ paste links to parts of what you’d buy. (Trying to keep it ny legal):popcorn ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3028 "2013-11-30T14:08:27Z")
> [@Sully93vr4"](#): > > Lets try something new, ill set my budget between 800-1000 for a complete ar build. Copy/ paste links to parts of what you’d buy. (Trying to keep it :gay):popcorn fixed ---
**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3029 "2013-11-30T14:11:00Z")
Haha. Basically. Well, build me something that won’t get me arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3030 "2013-11-30T14:40:32Z")
> [@It's Friday and I'm leaving @ noon Crew](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-friday-and-im-leaving-noon-crew/53682/38): > > Haha. Basically. Well, build me something that won’t get me arrested. If you dont want to register it, owning an AR in just about any configuration will get you “arrested” unless you butcher it to the point where its barely an AR anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3031 "2013-11-30T21:49:19Z")
> [@What are you doing this weekend?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-doing-this-weekend/53686/29): > > piston ar = hype Shut up ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3032 "2013-12-01T06:04:26Z")
> [@It's Friday and I'm leaving @ noon Crew](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-friday-and-im-leaving-noon-crew/53682/38): > > Haha. Basically. Well, build me something that won’t get me arrested. I know you can still get stripped lowers at a few local stores but from what I understand if you didn’t own it before the safe act its not legal for you to own now in any configuration. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3033 "2013-12-01T09:33:09Z")
Untrue. It has to be featureless to be legal though. An ugly stock, Bull barrel etc ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3034 "2013-12-01T16:11:44Z")
I’ve got a brand new forged upper with forward assist if anyone is interested ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3035 "2013-12-01T20:03:02Z")
What brand? ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3036 "2013-12-01T21:09:24Z")
> [@Ultradriver10000 gets beat by the GTO and in shame he moves to texas](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ultradriver10000-gets-beat-by-the-gto-and-in-shame-he-moves-to-texas/53671/8): > > What brand? +1 ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3037 "2013-12-02T04:14:28Z")
If anyone is interested lmk ![http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/7DED8284-7391-4CF9-BF83-F8BFFE98EA1E-3486-0000041422612BEF_zps4c1d9605.jpg](http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/7DED8284-7391-4CF9-BF83-F8BFFE98EA1E-3486-0000041422612BEF_zps4c1d9605.jpg) ![http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/A5A7CD08-25C3-4F57-AD94-B8B0BC1542A6-3486-000004142ABD541D_zps1b498fe1.jpg](http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/jacobennis/A5A7CD08-25C3-4F57-AD94-B8B0BC1542A6-3486-000004142ABD541D_zps1b498fe1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3038 "2013-12-02T05:56:40Z")
owned it presafe act. thats the key right? If you had a non nys-comp pre safe act you have to register it or sell it out of state right? And no new sales in state of non comp AR’s are allowed, right? Tell me this, how the fuck are they going to know if you owned it prior to last jan/feb? Say you bought a lower last year, or even 5 years ago, its not a firearm until its functional, right? What if you built it tomorrow? Or built it a year from now. Or built it 5 years ago. Not only how will they know, but were is the line drawn for owned pre safe act? Whats stopping anyone from continuing to buy stripped lowers anyway? Its not like you cant get a lower and bolt compliant shit to it, so why hault, stop, slow down or scare down the sales of lowers? And again, if anyone asks if its registered, say yes. If they walk away, great. If they dont and they get a court order to query you against the reg database, you have 30 days to register it or sell it out of state, or turn it over to dismiss the charge. So again, the ammount of grey area surrounding this bullshit is staggering, even a year later we still cant seem to understand what the fuck is going on with it all. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3039 "2013-12-02T06:06:23Z")
How do you even register? Is there a website or are you suppose to go to the local pd and tell them what you own? I have not seen anything regarding registering and didn’t even think it was set up yet. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3040 "2013-12-02T06:10:39Z")
> [@e30 V8 incar](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e30-v8-incar/53689/11): > > owned it presafe act. thats the key right? If you had a non nys-comp pre safe act you have to register it or sell it out of state right? And no new sales in state of non comp AR’s are allowed, right? > > Tell me this, how the fuck are they going to know if you owned it prior to last jan/feb? Say you bought a lower last year, or even 5 years ago, its not a firearm until its functional, right? What if you built it tomorrow? Or built it a year from now. Or built it 5 years ago. Not only how will they know, but were is the line drawn for owned pre safe act? Whats stopping anyone from continuing to buy stripped lowers anyway? Its not like you cant get a lower and bolt compliant shit to it, so why hault, stop, slow down or scare down the sales of lowers? > > And again, if anyone asks if its registered, say yes. If they walk away, great. If they dont and they get a court order to query you against the reg database, you have 30 days to register it or sell it out of state, or turn it over to dismiss the charge. > > So again, the ammount of grey area surrounding this bullshit is staggering, even a year later we still cant seem to understand what the fuck is going on with it all. I guess the only thing saying you owned it prior to the safe act would be the nics check (if they can look that up) or a receipt. Innocent until proven guilty, right? but I doubt that would apply here. if it was a private sale you could write a receipt for dec, 2012 and I don’t see how they could know any different, but i’m no lawyer. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496.md?page=151) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496.md?page=153)