# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.

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**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")
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### Author: ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2943 "2013-08-23T05:24:16Z")

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> [@FS: 106 West brook drive: Moving Sale.....no prices just offers\* updates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-106-west-brook-drive-moving-sale-no-prices-just-offers-updates/51410/37):
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> you can still build a ar. you could say the build date was last year if you want to reg. but i dont advise that. or use a ny safer grip to avoid legal issues.
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> buy a 80% lower mill it out or drill press or dremel. even could use hand tools. **and they ship uncompleted lowers to your house. no ffl needed.** just like any other part of a semi ar.
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> buy upper at a gun store or build your own, buy lower parts kit, buffer tube kit, and a mag. bang you have a ar. so easy a lil kid could do it.
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> if you have a 3d printer or access to one. print your own lower. theres enough designs out there for free.
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> also theres some shops that sell %100 lowers but they are marked post safe act in the vin #s. so if you assemble it after 1/15/13 its illegal if you use a traditional pistol grip. but you could use ny safer grips that are legal.
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> all the parts for a ar15 are still legal. but if you have them assembled then its a another story. all parts can be shipped to your house too. unless you get one complete then its considered a gun and requires a ffl to ship.
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> ak parts kits and alot of other guns are easy to find too and %100 legal to ship to your home without a ffl. if the lower or the gun is complete they cant ship to your home.

I am 99% sure that under the law the lower (stripped or complete) has to go through an FFL because it contains the serial number.

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