# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")
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### Author: ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3020 "2013-11-29T10:58:09Z")

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> [@Anyone know Brian Krakowski?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-brian-krakowski/53687/6):
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> I think your confusing the point to the 80% idea. The idea is to have an unnumbered gun so you dont need to register it, you cant for that matter. In doing so, you have to be the one with your hand on the drill press or the mill, nobody but you. Once completed and operational its considered a firearm. You can use/own it without needed a serial number. But it cant be transfered, sold, gifted, or anything with a serial number, the FFL will send you packing. It needs to be distroyed if you dont want it anymore, or you need to apply for an SN and then its like any normal lower, and those rules apply.

slap a SN on it and its good to go

for me a 80% lower is cheaper and if you have a nicer setup it can be better quality than cheaper brands with no QC

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