# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3058
**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/3058 "2014-01-06T06:57:48Z")
> [@FS: 2 2005 Polaris Trailblazer 250's with Trailer](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2-2005-polaris-trailblazer-250s-with-trailer/52892/11): > > I am going wayyy out on a limb (knowing Adam holds better stature on shift and is way more of a gun guy than I) here but I disagree with your idea on the mag lock/bulletbutton. > > From what I understand reading the law, and what others (one lawyer in the family as a matter of fact) agrees… the utter bullshit way the safeact was written VS how proper it was written in CA is why it “shouldn’t fly” here in ny. Reason I said shouldn’t fly is because we have yet to see a court case against the bullet button here in NY to prove his (lawyer buddy) assumptions. > > Its currently written as: “Has… AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE…. AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS” > > That’s it. Infact if you look up the Bill and do a search for “tool”, “button” and have zero results found. The search term “fixed magazine” only refers to semiauto shotguns which cant have a capacity of more than 5 round in them. > > Tool-less or tooled (allen wrench, bullet tip, etc) removal of the magazine to remove/dismount and then attach another magazine, states IN NY that the weapon can still accept a detachable magazine and is still under the one feature scrutiny. The way he CA law is written it goes into DETAIL on how that magazine should be legally removed for re-installation. Talks about “tools” and such. > > A welded on magazine or a one piece receiver with a built in “magazine” or bullet holding area if you will is the only thing that would stretch the idea that it can no longer ACCEPT a detachable magazine… I’ll put my foot in my mouth the after the first “bullet button” case that favors the defendant. > > AMMO… 9 DAYS TILL WHO KNOWS WHAT. I have been to Dicks, Walmart, and 2 gun shops… they know the nic’s and NYS database entry for who, how much, and what cal. is coming on the 15th but NONE of them know how its even supposed to be carried out yet! I have information thats for the SRS thread if details are needed, but I can tell you from what I read from the inside, NYS doesn’t have a plan yet either! One on the books suggestion was put a trooper on prem to fill out information on a hand written form for each customer! not even joking. the mag locks are not the same as a bullet button…with a mag log the only way to remove the magazine is to remove the rear take down pin and swing the upper out of the way…this is considered disassembly, and disassembling an ar to swap out a mag is no different than disassembling a bolt action rifle to replace the internal magazine. the fact that the disassembly of an ar is much simpler doesn’t change the fact that the rifle is being disassembled (therefore the mag is not detachable). i know what you are saying though but lets live the technical thinking and redefining of words to the state, lets not help them turn us into criminals. edit: if they decide to require tools to remove the mag i will gladly use the punch on my leatherman mut to push out the takedown pin. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496)._