# The Official "Who's going to the lot" tonight Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 10, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983 "2008-03-10T12:51:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2661 "2008-04-30T12:32:33Z")

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> [@1.8tV-Dub](#):
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> pete tried to argue that your car with a new clutch, 3" exhaust and a fmic couldnt make ~400awhp, how much boost was bryan runnning and did he have meth? was it pump or race gas?

i could put my car on a different dyno and have it read 400awhp as it sits… different dynos read differently. a dyno is ONLY a tuning tool.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2662 "2008-04-30T12:33:27Z")

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what dyno did byron run on? Any idea if it reads high, low, average?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2663 "2008-04-30T12:36:42Z")

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> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> what dyno did byron run on? Any idea if it reads high, low, average?

those numbers were @ tdc tuning in new hampshire on a DYNOmite dyno. from what ive seen… it reads outrageously high.

he dyno’d at moon on 93 + water injection only @ 25psi and made within 4-5hp of what i am on 2.5psi less and i still have tgv’s and the stock topmount with no water

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2664 "2008-04-30T12:40:33Z")

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> [@1.8tV-Dub](#):
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> Byron’s FP green’d STi (477hp/534tq ) I told you he _could_ pete

The 477AWHP STI that trapped 119? That’s what you call a high reading dyno.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2665 "2008-04-30T12:43:42Z")

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thats what I thought ;D

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2666 "2008-04-30T12:45:01Z")

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> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> thats what I thought ;D

I shouldn’t say that withot seeing the dyno graph. It’s possible it’s VERY peaky but the HP/WEIGHT/TRAP at glance don’t match up.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2667 "2008-04-30T12:51:54Z")

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i found a copy of byrons dynosheet from tdc on [unysoc.org](http://unysoc.org)… here it is. make your own conclusions

![http://www.tdctuning.com/dynocharts/domgreen.GIF](http://www.tdctuning.com/dynocharts/domgreen.GIF)

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2668 "2008-04-30T12:54:44Z")

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A lot of TQ drop off. ☹

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2669 "2008-04-30T12:56:43Z")

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my dyno plot from moon for comparison.

![http://a73.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_3b5f19fe69100da6638ee49a8ce50e98.jpg](http://a73.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_3b5f19fe69100da6638ee49a8ce50e98.jpg)

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2670 "2008-04-30T13:04:08Z")

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> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> saying and doing are completely different. I have yet to hear about a dig race yet. (Not pointing fingers)
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> your car is built for straight line racing, the awd imports you are ragging on are not. Sure it maybe close races and all, but it’s not what they were meant for. So beating them and bragging about it doesn’t really make sense, IMO.

i think ive only raced in like two roll races, 90 percent of most races i see or am part of a from a dig

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2671 "2008-04-30T13:04:49Z")

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> [@plaf713](#):
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> i think ive only raced in like two roll races, 90 percent of most races i see or am part of a from a dig

losing to an AWD car from a roll is discouraging aint it? :runaway

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2672 "2008-04-30T13:07:40Z")

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Someone tell me what “Correction Method: Observed” means because I always wondered that when looking at Byron’s dyno plot. I think that is the highest whp ever dynoed with a 7cm 2.4" inlet green on an STI.

I trapped 119 on the stock motor + 35r, and the same tune dynoed 415whp on a dyno dynamics with no correction factor.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-whos-going-to-the-lot-tonight-thread/235983/2673 "2008-04-30T13:10:51Z")

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My old plot from KTR… the curve looks like travis’ FP green lol.

![http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2656/dyno26psiktrga6.jpg](http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2656/dyno26psiktrga6.jpg)

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yah… the dyno dynamics you were on jay is a true kick in the balls dyno. moon is somewhere in the middle of both, but still on the lower side of things… but very…accurate id say.

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So true, “The Shop” in CT runs the same dyno with a 1.20 CF so I woulda made 498 there.

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not bad for your own home brew tune.

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> [@jays05](#):
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> I trapped 119 on the stock motor + 35r, and the same tune dynoed 415whp on a dyno dynamics with no correction factor.

DING DING DING! That’s much better.

For me, I went 117.5 with 454AWHP DJ in a 4,075LBS car.

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I still like the Mustang dyno for real world #'s, of course seeing a huge hp # is cool.

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> DING DING DING! That’s much better.
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> For me, I went 117.5 with 454AWHP DJ in a 4,075LBS car.

you def have one of the highest hp cars around here (sorta) but id love to see what your car would put down @ moon on their mustang dyno… i shy away from dynojets now with all the funky correction factors they use. uncorrected i made 346hp/344tq… SAE corrected i made 366hp/364tq… put my car on “the shop’s” or “ics’s” dyno in connecticut and i could see 400+…

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> [@PokerRun518](#):
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> you def have one of the highest hp cars around here (sorta) but id love to see what your car would put down @ moon on their mustang dyno… i shy away from dynojets now with all the funky correction factors they use. uncorrected i made 346hp/344tq… SAE corrected i made 366hp/364tq… put my car on “the shop’s” or “ics’s” dyno in connecticut and i could see 400+…

I don’t use correction factors but aside from that, SMOOTHING makes a bit of a difference too.

The problem with DynoJets and other dynos is that people make blanket statements (ie Mustang reads low/DJ reads high). That’s just not true. There’s firmware/software changes that are different from dyno to dyno. For me, mine #s like the other cars on that dyno read what the car should make at the track.

Ask Cossey about the blown big block that made less power/TQ than my car at low boost.

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