# THe Pirates Should Move **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 5, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468 "2005-04-05T11:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/1 "2005-04-05T11:59:21Z")
Cities bigger than Pittsburgh without an MLB team (as far as I know): Indianapolis, IN Columbus, OH Memphis, TN Charlotte, NC Denver, CO Nashville, TN Portland, OR Oklahoma City, OK Las Vegas, NV Long Beach, CA Albequerque, NM New Orleans, LA Virginia Beach, VA Omaha, NB Tulsa, OK Honolulu, HI Colorado Springs, CO About five Texas cities About four Florida cities A dozen California cities Wichita, KS We are the FIFTY-THIRD largest city in America. We don’t need a pro sports team in every league, and we certainly don’t need to keep them here with taxpayer money. here’s a great article on pittsburgh: [http://pittsburgh.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2003/08/11/editorial5.html](http://pittsburgh.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2003/08/11/editorial5.html) ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/2 "2005-04-05T12:02:06Z")
Pittsburgh is ONLY known as a football town. im not saying get rid of the pirates/pens as it would cause problems. #1 it would destroy MANY jobs, bringing us back to the problems we have now. yes it may free up more money, but all that money would just go to Welfare and unemployment. There is no real soloution ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/3 "2005-04-05T12:02:36Z")
having a bigger city doesn’t entitle you to a sports franchise. If that was the case the steelers should move too. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_weaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@imported\_weaves](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_weaves)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/4 "2005-04-05T12:02:51Z")
So what the hell do we do with PNC Park if they leave under your great plan? We already paid for it, we might as well have a team playing in it. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/5 "2005-04-05T12:04:15Z")
build a NASCAR track! ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/6 "2005-04-05T12:04:34Z")
> [@weaves](#): > > So what the hell do we do with PNC Park if they leave under your great plan? We already paid for it, we might as well have a team playing in it. Pittspeed kickball tourney~!!! :mullet: ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/7 "2005-04-05T12:05:08Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > Pittsburgh is ONLY known as a football town. im not saying get rid of the pirates/pens as it would cause problems. > > #1 it would destroy MANY jobs, bringing us back to the problems we have now. yes it may free up more money, but all that money would just go to Welfare and unemployment. > > There is no real soloution with a few exceptions every city where they have football and baseball that town is now know for football because football has become more popular than baseball. The switch here didn;t come till the steelers got good or moved to three rivers… sounds like a bunch of bandwagon fans to me. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/8 "2005-04-05T12:05:11Z")
thats one of our financial problems, we shouldn’t have built 2 seperate facilities for the teams. plenty of teams share a facility. its the same as posting pics Get Money \> Build stadium not Build stadium \> Get money ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/9 "2005-04-05T12:05:52Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > build a NASCAR track! what money would a bunch of drunken hillbillies generate?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/10 "2005-04-05T12:06:10Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > build a NASCAR track! we were gonna but some key guy in the plan died. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/11 "2005-04-05T12:06:59Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > with a few exceptions every city where they have football and baseball that town is now know for football because football has become more popular than baseball. The switch here didn;t come till the steelers got good or moved to three rivers… sounds like a bunch of bandwagon fans to me. im not saying i like steelers more than pirates or penguins. honestly i could give 2 shits about pro sports. they all fucking blow. college, highschool and minor leauge is where its at… its when they still acctually play for the love of the game ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/12 "2005-04-05T12:07:42Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > There is no real soloution Sure there is. Use the freed-up space in our budget to lure an auto manufacturer or other supplier of large amounts of blue collar jobs to the area. If you want to fix the city without evicting all the residents, you have to create jobs that make the residents productive members of society with disposable incomes. we need to worry about our future economic health, not having all the sports teams we had when we were kids and they were lucrative. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/13 "2005-04-05T12:08:58Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > thats one of our financial problems, we shouldn’t have built 2 seperate facilities for the teams. > > plenty of teams share a facility. > > its the same as posting pics > > Get Money \> Build stadium > not > Build stadium \> Get money only 3-4 still share facilities and thats gonna be less when the marlins get a stadium. Fact is, 3 rivers, riverfront, veterans, busch, were all terrible for baseball but excellent for football. They should have turned 3 rivers into a football only stadium but blame it on big business and luxury suites, thats the main reason heinz was built. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/14 "2005-04-05T12:09:18Z")
we cant sell the cars we have now cause of gas prices, why should we build MORE? ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/15 "2005-04-05T12:10:22Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > They should have turned 3 rivers into a football only stadium but blame it on big business and luxury suites, thats the main reason heinz was built. i agree renovation \> rebuild there is no reason that structure couldn’t have been renovated for the needs. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Dirty\_Georg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ab992/32.png) [@Old\_Dirty\_Georg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Old_Dirty_Georg)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/16 "2005-04-05T12:12:25Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > we were gonna but some key guy in the plan died. I think you are talking about the indoor track. Yes the guy died, but they are still talking about it up in New England: [http://www.jayski.com/pages/tracks/indoor.htm](http://www.jayski.com/pages/tracks/indoor.htm) ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/17 "2005-04-05T12:12:41Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > only 3-4 still share facilities and thats gonna be less when the marlins get a stadium. Fact is, 3 rivers, riverfront, veterans, busch, were all terrible for baseball but excellent for football. They should have turned 3 rivers into a football only stadium but blame it on big business and luxury suites, thats the main reason heinz was built. Heinz was built because the Steelers are profitable. PNC was built because the Pirates threatened to leave. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/18 "2005-04-05T12:13:51Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > Sure there is. > > Use the freed-up space in our budget to lure an auto manufacturer or other supplier of large amounts of blue collar jobs to the area. If you want to fix the city without evicting all the residents, you have to create jobs that make the residents productive members of society with disposable incomes. > > we need to worry about our future economic health, not having all the sports teams we had when we were kids and they were lucrative. this is all an effect of the closing of the steelmills. who’s to fault? the government, the environmentalists, etc etc… here’s a novel idea, open an oil refinery, this country hasn;t done so in 40 years and it would start a new trend to help lower the cost of gasoline. another problem with pittsburgh is there isn’t a middle ground of people that want to be productive, you have your people that work hard and you have your drunken bums and then your typical welfare recipients. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/19 "2005-04-05T12:15:33Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > Heinz was built because the Steelers are profitable. > > PNC was built because the Pirates threatened to leave. heinz and pnc were built to make money off luxury suites. If you really followed pro sports you would know about this. its a trend that started in toronto with the sky dome. you don’t follow so i wouldn’t expect you to know. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-pirates-should-move/173468/20 "2005-04-05T12:16:13Z")
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