# The Prius outsold the Ford Focus 2007

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 3, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190 "2008-01-03T17:43:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/21 "2008-01-04T07:41:09Z")

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That C30 is sweet. I def wouldn’t mind rolling around in that for my dd

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/22 "2008-01-04T07:43:33Z")

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> [@traumadog](#):
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> Even better - Toyota is listed as America’s #2 brand in 2007:
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> Chevrolet –6.5% at 2,265,641 (2006: 2,415,428)  
> Toyota +2.9% at 2,166,648 (2006: 2,220,090)  
> Ford –13.9% at 2,101,244 (2006: 2,433,086)  
> Honda +4.5% at 1,371,438 (2006: 1,308,135)  
> Dodge –2.1% at 1,058,402 (2006: 1,077,579)

Fixed that for you.

Scion : Toyota as Pontiac : Chevrolet.

:fyi:

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/23 "2008-01-04T08:04:36Z")

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working at a yota dealership…every prius I saw was upwards of $24K.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/24 "2008-01-04T10:40:01Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> Fixed that for you.
> 
> Scion : Toyota as Pontiac : Chevrolet.
> 
> :fyi:

I thought it would be:

Scion : Toyota as Pontiac : GM

and Al Gore’s son can roll his prius in the fast lane anytime he wants 😃 :

> **[Al Gore III's Prius could go 100 mph?](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/07/al-gore-iii-s-prius-could-go-100-mph.html)**
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> Making this week easier for late-night talk show hosts everywhere, Al Gore III, the son of former Vice President Al Gore, was arrested on Wednesday...

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/25 "2008-01-04T10:56:07Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I thought it would be:
> 
> Scion : Toyota as Pontiac : GM
> 
> and Al Gore’s son can roll his prius in the fast lane anytime he wants 😃 :
> 
> [Al Gore III's Prius could go 100 mph?](http://www.slate.com/id/2169925/)

Negative.

Scion & Toyota (brand, not company) are seperate brands.

Its more like: Lincoln : Ford (brand, not company).

Easier?

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/26 "2008-01-04T11:22:04Z")

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Toyota owns Lexus and Scion

Chevrolet does not own Pontiac

GM owns Pontiac, Chevrolet etc.

right?

what you’re saying would be the same as lexus owns scion

toyota does own scion

see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota\](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota%5C)

> Toyota owns and operates Toyota, Lexus, Scion, has a majority shareholding in Daihatsu Motors [6], and has minority shareholdings in Fuji Heavy Industries, Isuzu Motors, and the engine, motor cycle and marine craft manufacturer Yamaha Motors.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/27 "2008-01-04T11:29:18Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> Toyota owns Lexus and Scion
> 
> Chevrolet does not own Pontiac
> 
> GM owns Pontiac, Chevrolet etc.
> 
> right?
> 
> what you’re saying would be the same as lexus owns scion

okay, in relation to these rankings & this thread, how about this:

Toyota is sold & marketed as it’s own brand.  
So is Scion.  
So is Lexus.  
So is Chevrolet.  
So is Pontiac, Olds, GMC, etc etc.

The top **_brand_** rankings are relative to brands, not companies.

So, the Toyota brand (vehicles with Toyota nameplates, not Lexus, Scion, etc) is #2 behind the Chevrolet brand (vehicles with Bowties on them).

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/28 "2008-01-04T19:52:09Z")

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I don’t find that the prius is above the focus in sales. If your gonna buy a new car, why would you not spend a few more bucks so that you can 1. get the tax rebates on the hybrid vehicle and 2. save money in gas. Personally I am a big truck, HP car guy. In hs my car got maybe 6 miles per gallon (377, 3,800 stall, 750 DP with big pumps, and 4:56) even then if i didn’t work at a gas station (and borrowed gas) i would NEVER be able to drive that thing, that was in 1998. Now flash forward to now, I can’t afford to drive my truck, except when i have a need. And my next car after this winter beater of mine dies, will for sure be a tiny focus or similar. A car is for commuting, and as cheaply as possible. If the prius is cheaper to drive, then people will buy it, simple as that.

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**Author:** ![avs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@avs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/avs)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/29 "2008-01-04T20:12:20Z")

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FYI. The C30 doesn’t share the same chassis as USDM focus.  
C30 shares the same chassis as the mazda3

> [@somedude](#):
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> ![http://ricepaperslidingdoor.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/060724001.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/3/037b45c21b9c1a9fca9b406dcd7b743ffb650560.jpeg) ![http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/motorshows/2006/detroit/production/03-large/volvo-c30-s.jpg](http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/motorshows/2006/detroit/production/03-large/volvo-c30-s.jpg)  
> ![http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/concepts/V/volvo/c30-design-concept/03-large/06-volvo-c30-f-st.jpg](http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/concepts/V/volvo/c30-design-concept/03-large/06-volvo-c30-f-st.jpg)
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> it pretty much is, it is just under a differnet brand name.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/30 "2008-01-04T20:44:13Z")

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…and both share a chassis with the euro focus, I think thats what was meant.

I do find it pretty surprising, I would never drive a prius but on the other hand hybrids are all the rage and the focus is an aging platform with not much going on in 2007. The new 08 is not much better.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/31 "2008-01-04T20:56:22Z")

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i actually love the prius.

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**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/32 "2008-01-05T07:32:15Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
>
> okay, in relation to these rankings & this thread, how about this:
> 
> Toyota is sold & marketed as it’s own brand.  
> So is Scion.  
> So is Lexus.  
> So is Chevrolet.  
> So is Pontiac, Olds, GMC, etc etc.
> 
> The top **_brand_** rankings are relative to brands, not companies.
> 
> So, the Toyota brand (vehicles with Toyota nameplates, not Lexus, Scion, etc) is #2 behind the Chevrolet brand (vehicles with Bowties on them).

Of course, the argument on Toyota’s side is to include Scions… as Scions are **only** sold at Toyota dealers. There’s no such thing as a Scion dealer (yet).

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-prius-outsold-the-ford-focus-2007/41190/33 "2008-01-05T07:43:17Z")

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> [@traumadog](#):
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> Of course, the argument on Toyota’s side is to include Scions… as Scions are **only** sold at Toyota dealers. There’s no such thing as a Scion dealer (yet).

That would be like saying a PBG (Pontiac Buick GMC) store is one brand because they are all under the same roof.  
Also, there are 50+ standalone Scion stores (they are owned by Toyota dealers as well), but have a separate buildings and operations.

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