# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/181 "2021-12-02T13:50:19Z")

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I’m going to make an exhaust system for electric cars with a little diesel tank so e-penis guys can know they joy of rolling coal.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/182 "2021-12-02T14:30:16Z")

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> [@drvnkd](#):
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> Tesla flame thrower exhaust like a James Bond car.

Elon already has that covered too: [Flamethrower — The Boring Company](https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower)

I like where this conversation is going.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/183 "2021-12-02T15:00:12Z")

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That flame thrower is could be integrated.  
Just grab some off the shelf parts from spacx to get a titanium bumper cover and blast away.

I still like the idea of mini battery bombs. Once the initial version proves out, we can fund development of rev 2. integrate an on board charger and thermal monitoring so that hundreds of batteries can be ejected moments before detonation.

It could even be a green company if we recycle old cell phone and laptop batteries on the eco version. Maybe buy them from the African countries the world is using as a land fill (charitable donation) for old electronics.

Tesla trucks would take more work. Imagine the acclaim if it could make indestructible old Nokia phones explode.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/184 "2021-12-02T17:45:45Z")

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So in all seriousness this thing is a blast to drive. Being a passenger can be scary/painful, with no warning from your wife mashing the throttle it has the ability to ring your head against headrest pretty well. Gets you to triple digits like a sportbike but then quickly falls on its face. Quickly have fallen in love with how simple the interior and controls are. Haven’t come across any of the build issues people have posted about…yet.  
If there’s one thing they need to improve its the buying process, or they need to build a dealer locally.

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**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/185 "2021-12-02T19:01:37Z")

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Really interested in the build quality issue. Please update. I have a reservation for a f150 lightning but am fairly interested in a Y perf instead…

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/186 "2021-12-02T22:11:40Z")

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Every day the idea of trading my S5 in on an electric 4 seat convertible gets more appealing. Would just need to toss about 6 more solar panels on the front of my roof and free power. The way my array is setup now I have most of my panels on the back of the roof and my inverter has some room left so I think I could get away with 6 more panels on the front without having to change anything else (east/west facing roof, so either one side or the other is making good power leaving room on the inverter for the front side morning panels). Audi just needs to step up with a nice etron AWD cabriolet.

Keep my wife’s SUV for towing and long distance hauls.

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**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/187 "2021-12-02T22:52:06Z")

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Do any electric cars have solar panels integrated yet? You would think that’s a natural progression

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/188 "2021-12-03T11:53:02Z")

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> [@Z28pr0jekt](#):
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> Do any electric cars have solar panels integrated yet? You would think that’s a natural progression

The Fisker Karma had a roof panel. But from what I remember it wasn’t a significant charge. Most were probably parked in garages anyway.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/189 "2021-12-03T11:55:18Z")

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So if we can get Fusion off the ground, and the anti-nuke cult doesn’t freak out, I think electric cars will boom. Hell _anything_ electric would boom. We’d essentially have free energy.

> **[Finally, a Fusion Reaction Has Generated More Energy Than Absorbed by The Fuel](https://www.sciencealert.com/for-the-first-time-a-fusion-reaction-has-generated-more-energy-than-absorbed-by-the-fuel)**
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> A major milestone has been breached in the quest for fusion energy.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/190 "2021-12-03T12:57:58Z")

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I’ve been saying this for a while. Once fusion becomes commonplace it changes everything. Overpopulation will become the next divisive political running theme.

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**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/191 "2021-12-03T13:15:26Z")

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This is one of my companies (Praxair/Linde)bigger customers. Pretty cool to see the results of our product. This place has crazy security. My technicians that service the cryogenic tanks tell me they are escorted by armed guards. The have designated walking area where if you step out and don’t follow the first command you’ll be shot on site. Makes sense since they are a weapons contractor for the US.

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**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/192 "2021-12-03T14:09:24Z")

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I co-op’d for a year plus at the LLE (Lab for Laser Energetics) at the UR here back in the late 90s. Pretty wild place and its amazing that they are getting super close. Back then it was def still a pipe dream as I dont recall they had really anything even close to ignition yet.

dan

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/193 "2021-12-16T11:51:30Z")

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They’re FURIOUS! lol, headlines are such crap.

Anyways, interesting point about the EV tax credits. Who knew the infrastructure bill was America first:

> **[Canada Is Furious With America Over Electric Vehicles](https://carbuzz.com/news/canada-is-furious-with-america-over-electric-vehicles)**
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> The Biden administration really wants Americans to buy electrified vehicles, ranging from the Jeep Wrangler 4xe plug-in to full-blown electrics like the Ford F-150 Lightning. Also part of the Build Back America Act is the additional financial...

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/194 "2021-12-16T12:15:46Z")

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The irony of uber-leftist Canada being pissed redneck America wants to give tax credits to put more EV’s on the road is not lost on me.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/195 "2021-12-16T13:05:37Z")

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One of my supppppppper democratic co-workers recently went on a trip to Florida and one of their friends down there had a Tesla and offered to drive people around while they were on their trip.

You know what sucks?

Running late to the airport for the flight home because your Tesla died on the way and you had to sit at the supercharging station for 30 minutes.

You know what’s nice about gas powered cars?

None of that shit.

Guess who’s all of a sudden anti-electric only cars?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/196 "2021-12-17T11:37:55Z")

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Man, I dig this. And want one.

> “We’re actually going to win at the passenger game because by the time others are doing passenger missions we will have thousands of aircraft, millions of flight hours and a safe, reliable, vetted design,” says the 41-year-old Clark, whose company is based in his hometown of Burlington, Vermont.

> they envision Alia flying directly from one UPS warehouse to another – cutting out truck trips as well as plane flights — and eventually straight to large customers

> **[Amazon And UPS Are Betting This Electric Aircraft Startup Will Change Shipping](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2021/12/16/beta-technologies-amazon-ups-evtol/?sh=3825f4732c24)**
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> Beta Technologies, founded by former pro hockey player and Harvard grad Kyle Clark, may be on the verge of bringing workhorse battery-powered cargo planes to America’s skies that take off and land like helicopters.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/197 "2021-12-18T15:56:43Z")

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Forgot this goes along with my previous post

 ![1960x0](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/0/c04257a3fdc436e4350cf264f14029cce8ee06da.gif)

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/198 "2021-12-20T20:54:32Z")

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This definitely gave me a laugh. I’m annoyed with the push for EV’s while not pushing for trickle down technology of better gas powered motors.

The Skyactiv-X which can do about 50mpg but is banned from the US because of NO gases I believe it is. Or how Koenigsegg produced a 600hp 3 cylinder motor. Why not take that tech and come out with a 150hp 3 cylinder motor that has better MPG. Also add some hybrid technology and you’ll get even better fuel economy. We should not be going directly to EV cars first. Learn to mash the 2 together to get the best distance/rang possible while growing your knowledge on going straight EV in the further future.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/199 "2021-12-20T22:44:53Z")

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Oil and gas stocks are old news.

Our political elite need something with mandated growth to invest in.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/200 "2021-12-21T14:29:49Z")

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My mind has been on this. I’d love to know how many politicians are investing in stocks that deal with electric/batteries/EV cars. Which takes me back to another thought of mine, that no politicians should be able to trade stocks while in their position.

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