# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/201 "2021-12-21T17:50:34Z")
Not a huge fan of Jalopnik anymore but still an interesting situation with Tesla that I could see other companies doing once they get deeper into the EV industry. > **[Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017](https://jalopnik.com/tesla-appears-to-be-selling-new-cars-with-batteries-fro-1848245292)** > > I'm sort of confused as to exactly what's going on here but it's worth talking about ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/202 "2021-12-21T18:01:08Z")
Couple quick things… I’m pretty sure Skyactiv-X isn’t banned, they can’t meet emissions with it and the cost value for the US market isn’t there… They could meet emissions targets but they cost is too high they claimed. Also, its really easy to make huge power on a low production cars. The Koenigsegg is super sweet, but the technology for mass production high mileage use isn’t there. It isn’t even about JUST MPG. A 1980s manual honda can get 50mpg, but you have to do it while meeting all the EPA targets. Now add in all the crash safety you have to have, it makes cars very heavy. Its like a 3 dimensional ball, with a million floating targets on the surface of the ball the government makes you hit to sell a car here. So your simple ball now looks like some freak show crazy thing. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/203 "2021-12-21T18:11:36Z")
I’m really surprised they can sell the car as a 2021. For gas cars, when you place the engine to the chassis you have to create a vin number and that is the year of the vehicle. As far as I know, the engine/trans has to be of the same ‘model’ year. In some very special cases, there might be some left over parts from the previous year, but I’m pretty sure it has to be under a certain number. Say they over produced 500 2021 engines, they have to document that and then they can be used in the 2022 cars, but they have to meet all 2022 standards. This would be like buying a new Chevy truck and it comes with a junk yard/old 5.3L in it. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/204 "2021-12-21T18:13:52Z")
The way you can look at this is that it’s a battery, not the engine or trans. So they probably have their loophole right there. This should be a new mandate though for any EV cars. Battery should match the chassis year if it’s a new car. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/205 "2021-12-21T18:51:10Z")
Just Tesla doing more shady bullshit. What a shock. ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/206 "2021-12-21T18:54:09Z")
Need to mass produce that free valve shit. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/207 "2021-12-28T23:58:30Z")
The rapid move to… Wait… What? ![fH2gB0KhkPgN](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/c/8c1ee3f6ebb8b6333ed3734f0a512c951666d503.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/208 "2021-12-29T12:25:41Z")
Car culture the latest victim of cancel culture…lol ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/209 "2021-12-29T14:54:02Z")
I feel like this is going to be like a Minority report and how the cars are on there. But owned and controlled by the Government. lol ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/7/a72e204051324b77e7abea80a7ff151fac598556.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/210 "2021-12-30T16:38:18Z")
Man blows up his Tesla after finding out he’d have to pay $22,000 for repairs to replace a battery. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-owner-decides-to-blow-up-his-car-with-dynamite-when-faced-with-dollar22000-repair-bill/ar-AAShvcI?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-owner-decides-to-blow-up-his-car-with-dynamite-when-faced-with-dollar22000-repair-bill/ar-AAShvcI?li=BBnb7Kz) [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/2/82d34c9f94c0f4853696b7c58cfc48f789ecc431.jpeg "Mies joka räjäytti TESLANSA!! Tesla Model S & 30kg dynamiittia.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_9aVzf5fC4) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/211 "2021-12-30T22:35:24Z")
Wow the production value of that was way higher than expected ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/212 "2022-01-07T10:41:11Z")
No rapid moves right now at GM; > As noted by General Motors, the company sold a total of twenty-six electric vehicles in the fourth quarter. Not twenty-six thousand. Just twenty-six. These were comprised of twenty-five Chevy Bolts and one Hummer EV pickup truck. This was quite interesting considering that GM made it a point to announce last month that Hummer EV customer deliveries were already starting. > **[Tesla’s Elon Musk responds to General Motors’ 26 total EV sales in Q4 2021](https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon-musk-gm-26-ev-sales-q4-2021/amp/)** > > Tesla CEO Elon Musk recently posted a response to veteran American automaker General Motors’ total electric vehicle sales during the fourth quarter of 2021. According to the Tesla CEO, GM’s Q4 2021 numbers definitely have “room to improve,” which is... ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/213 "2022-01-08T00:51:01Z")
![Screenshot_20220107-185259_Twitter](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/6/e69ef145429d7c9969878a6b12b090aa2346946c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/214 "2022-01-08T02:25:19Z")
Slightly related: > **[N.Y. governor proposes 1st-ever statewide ban on gas hookups in new buildings](https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-governor-proposes-first-ever-statewide-ban-on-gas-hookups-in-new-buildings-210023080.html)** > > As the centerpiece of a multipronged initiative to combat climate change, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul proposed on Wednesday a first-of-its-kind, state-wide ban on natural gas hookups in all new buildings. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/215 "2022-01-08T02:52:50Z")
Dislike. We should demand that the NYC mayor and state goveners homes be subject to all of the latest building codes. Only personal homes though and not at taxpayer expense. Social media must be able to guilt them into it. This should only take one administration. After that, only the rich would be able to afford to be governor/mayor. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/216 "2022-01-10T11:52:31Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > Slightly related: See, this is the stuff that makes me want to put a natural gas lantern on the outside of my house for historical accuracy. I still have the LP lines. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/217 "2022-01-10T14:13:57Z")
> **[Car companies plan for electric vehicles by 2040, but infrastructure demands...](https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/car-companies-electric-vehicles-infrastructure-demands)** > > Experts call the switch to electric vehicles a "generational shift" not seen since the adoption of oil and gas in the 1800s. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/218 "2022-01-10T14:54:02Z")
Personally, if they want to make the push for EV cars, they need to come out with cars that are cheaper options for people to change. I believe the cheapest EV right now is around $28k while you can get something like a base model Chevy Malibu (Midsize car) for $22k. Someone needs to put a $20-24k car on the market for EV. Hell, an $18-20k car would be a great addition. But pushing EV cars on us and having almost all of them over $30k, there isn’t an option for the lower class to get their hands on. I’m sure the thought would be to get a use EV, but now you are talking about possible battery replacement. The cost of the used car + the cost of a new battery and service will equal about the amount of a new EV car. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/219 "2022-01-10T16:00:42Z")
My tin hat says that’s by design. They don’t want the lower class to have the same freedoms as upper class. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/220 "2022-01-10T18:20:18Z")
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