# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/261 "2022-05-12T14:05:55Z")

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found a used one for 18k.  
Plus used bikes got stupid expensive.  
Ive wanted a ebr 1190 for a while now and they were going for like 7-10k. Now guys want 13k

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/262 "2022-05-12T14:25:57Z")

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Like everything I guess trucks are $150k bikes are $26k my job is the same pay lol

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/263 "2022-05-12T14:40:12Z")

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Now try living on a teacher’s stagnant salary.

This is why I cook meth.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/264 "2022-05-13T01:15:47Z")

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That was fast ad response

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/265 "2022-06-07T10:18:32Z")

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If you won’t change to an electric vehicle on your own, we’ll just…

> … raise the mandatory amount of biofuel, specifically ethanol, that must be blended within the U.S. gasoline supply. The previous amount of 10% (summer blend) was raised to a year-round 15% (waiver) by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

> Ethanol is a valuable source of octane in finished gasoline, but it is chemically different than petroleum gasoline and cannot be used in concentrations above 10 percent in small engines — like outboard boat motors, motorcycles, lawnmowers, generators or chain saws — or in any cars made before 2001. Complicating matters further, most cars on the road today still aren’t warrantied to run on gasoline with more than 10 percent ethanol. Retail stations also must have compatible infrastructure in order to sell gasoline with higher ethanol blends.” This issue is known within the industry as “The Blend Wall.

… But maybe that’s a cynical outlook, lol.

> **[Biden Administration Quietly Raised Amount of Ethanol Required in Summer...](https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/06/biden-administration-quietly-raised-amount-of-ethanol-required-in-gasoline-from-ten-percent-to-fifteen-three-predictable-problems-will-surface-soon/)**
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> Last Friday the Biden administration raised the mandatory amount of biofuel, specifically ethanol, that must be blended within the U.S. gasoline supply.  The previous amount of 10% (summer blend) was raised to a year-round 15% (waiver) by the...

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/266 "2022-06-07T11:56:34Z")

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Time to get a megasquirt ECU for the Miata I guess.

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**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/267 "2022-06-07T12:38:23Z")

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Bmw have been designed with 30% ethanol since 2018. Seems to be the case will all the European manufacturers. Only American and jap cars are decades behind.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/268 "2022-06-07T16:40:48Z")

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Awh the only real difference is seals and valve seat materials potentially if you have PFI. Its only slightly harder on the valve seats then normal gas being sprayed on them, most cars can adjust probably up to 50% E85 on their own with long term and short term fuel trims. Worse thing honestly will be cold starts on some cars not specifically tuned for it.

It will destroy the seals in small carbs tho

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/269 "2022-06-09T11:28:33Z")

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I have injectors in my Z that I’ve been told for more than a decade are going to be destroyed by ethanol. No failures yet fortunately.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/270 "2022-06-11T03:21:43Z")

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/271 "2022-06-11T15:06:40Z")

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Says this little fag boy.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/272 "2022-06-20T12:04:16Z")

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I guess they solved the problem with the grid not being able to support charging all these cars…

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/2/a2674468e433d8992f5f54ed375063c859d462df.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/273 "2022-06-30T11:49:22Z")

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You’re not making a difference, you’re just making people hate you and your cause.

> the movement doesn’t urge people to cut tires or their valve stems – for now.

> **[The "Tire Extinguishers" Arrived in the U.S., They're After Gas Guzzler SUVs](https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-tire-extinguishers-arrived-in-the-us-they-re-after-gas-guzzler-suvs-192460.html)**
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> Do you drive an SUV? Then you might become a target for the environmental activists that are after your tires. The movement had just begun in the U.S. af...

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/274 "2022-06-30T11:53:21Z")

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Good way to get your face smashed in.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/275 "2022-06-30T12:54:59Z")

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Pew pew.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/276 "2022-07-07T02:19:49Z")

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43 north business idea.

Rental trailers that have battery packs and solar banks to extend range of EVs.

Regenerative breaking.  
Limited batteries that can be recharged at tesla stations. Edit: whats better than taking up 1 plugs at the community stations.

This may already exist, but we could surely make something auper trendy looking with high end performance.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/277 "2022-07-07T11:30:52Z")

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/278 "2022-07-07T11:36:16Z")

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> **[Journalists Tow Camper Behind Electric Truck, End in Stunning Failure When...](https://www.westernjournal.com/journalists-tow-camper-behind-electric-truck-end-stunning-failure-make-85-miles/)**
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> Wow! We can go 160 miles before charging! Or make that 150. Or quick, we need to find a charging station right now!

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/279 "2022-07-11T15:18:53Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1546499050807107585?s=20&t=wZOl3aJxf5n98WMVNObSaA>

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/280 "2022-07-11T16:25:15Z")

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Turned down my AC when I read that.

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