# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/381 "2023-01-16T15:52:40Z")
I mean because a $200 brake job every 3-4 years is a big cost… I could see maybe an engine or trans replacement if you needed one, or if you paid Firestone to do your brake yearly for $2000 lol. I would wager most people don’t spend $1000 yearly on maintenance, which would be way cheaper then a new $50k+ car. Unless you’re already buying a new $50k car I guess. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/382 "2023-01-16T17:58:27Z")
Thats if you do it yourself, most shops are charging like $1k an axle now. Dealer oil change is like $200 for full synthetic. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/383 "2023-01-16T18:16:32Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I would wager most people don’t spend $1000 yearly on maintenance, which would be way cheaper then a new $50k+ car. Unless you’re already buying a new $50k car I guess. I spent $800 over 5 years on my crusty Matrix. Yeah I probably fell behind on some stuff because it was nearing the end of its life in my ownership but still, I gladly would take that trade off for not having any car payment on a newer car. > [@LUC1F3R](#): > > Dealer oil change is like $200 for full synthetic. Been taking my wife’s Soul (I laugh every time I use this phrase) for synthetic changes at West Herr and it’s always like $60. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/384 "2023-01-16T18:40:51Z")
I always assumed West Herr was the Devil. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/385 "2023-01-16T19:09:09Z")
You sure thats synthetic? They tried charging $15 a qt x 8 qts Mobil1 + filter and labor for my truck. I go to walmart and buy 10qts for $70 + filter instead now. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/386 "2023-01-16T19:49:36Z")
When I bought the car there in 2016, they had the synthetic oil change upcharge and it was like $80. Then a couple years ago they stopped offering conventional changes altogether and said they only do synthetic now. And it’s $60 for 4 qts and filter, tough to beat. This is the West Herr Kia on Southwestern. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/387 "2023-01-16T21:51:05Z")
My Buick Enclave with 98k miles still has a KBB trade in target of $8800. What’s a Tesla 3 going to be worth when it’s 10 years old with 100k miles and no warranty on its insanely expensive to replace battery? I’m legitimately asking because I don’t know. Most of these new electric cars feel like they’re going the direction of just being disposable like everything else in our society. As someone that has always bought lightly used vehicles and done much of my own repairs to save massive amounts of money that I happily spend elsewhere this concerns me. Saving some money on brakes and oil changes doesn’t seem like much ROI on a $50k plus car if it’s worth nothing and you have to buy another new one when it’s “old”. Somewhere between 23 and 25k (I honestly don’t remember and I’m not digging through my filing cabinet) for my CPO Enclave in 2016 so that’s 7 years. If I got the trade in that’s 16200 or just $2315 a year if I got rid of it today, and every month more I keep it those numbers keep looking better. The maintenance savings on electric have zero chance of remotely getting near those numbers. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/388 "2023-01-16T21:56:37Z")
Right, I’ve been telling people the days of a hand me down care / first car are over. When a battery costs $3500+ to repair most ev cars will be trash when old… so what will a new driver get to use? Not moms old Buick… that will easily last 30years with semi regular car. Or maybe I’m wrong and ev cars will last foreve… like ev golf carts oh wait ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/389 "2023-01-17T13:28:29Z")
I think they hold their value pretty well… > **[Used 2013 Tesla Model S Performance for sale in RALEIGH, NC 27616: Hatchback...](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=663072266&allListingType=all-cars&makeCodeList=TESLA&city=West%20Falls&state=NY&zip=14170&searchRadius=500&marketExtension=include&endYear=2020&isNewSearch=false&showAccelerateBanner=false&sortBy=yearASC&numRecords=25&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2Ftesla%2Fwest-falls-ny-14170%3FsearchRadius%3D500%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26endYear%3D2020%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse%26showAccelerateBanner%3Dfalse%26sortBy%3DyearASC%26numRecords%3D25&clickType=listing)** > > Used 2013 Tesla Model S Performance for sale near you in RALEIGH, NC. Get more information and car pricing for this vehicle on Autotrader. > **[Used 2013 BMW 750Li for sale in CANFIELD, OH 44406: Sedan Details - 666811874...](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=666811874&allListingType=all-cars&startYear=2013&endYear=2013&makeCodeList=BMW&seriesCodeList=7_SERIES&city=West%20Falls&state=NY&zip=14170&requestId=7_SERIES&searchRadius=300&marketExtension=include&isNewSearch=false&showAccelerateBanner=false&sortBy=relevance&numRecords=25&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2F2013%2Fbmw%2F7-series%2Fwest-falls-ny-14170%3FrequestId%3D7_SERIES%26searchRadius%3D300%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse%26showAccelerateBanner%3Dfalse%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26numRecords%3D25&clickType=listing)** > > Used 2013 BMW 750Li for sale near you in CANFIELD, OH. Get more information and car pricing for this vehicle on Autotrader. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/390 "2023-01-17T13:34:40Z")
Well, not sure about this move, lol: ![SesYZEQkPPvW](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/c/ac508221c410d75c6183857651eea162fa65c258.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/391 "2023-01-17T13:35:33Z")
That seems as tone death as banning natural gas stoves ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/392 "2023-01-17T15:26:32Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/3/031c38203adfaff1c0f95ec754ccc496ddd2567b.jpeg "Here's Why Tesla Car Values Have Dropped So Fast") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT-9_As6qq4) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/393 "2023-01-17T15:27:33Z")
It’s not really too bad, their state relies on the oil/gas industry to stay alive, so it’s just a symbolic gesture that to them. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/394 "2023-01-17T16:04:34Z")
Someone want to cliff notes it because I can’t watch more than 10 seconds of DeMuro without punching my monitor. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/395 "2023-01-17T17:07:48Z")
Cliffs: Only losers buy Teslas and we are running out of losers 😃 Kidding. He blames interest rates and no more wait list to find one. ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/396 "2023-01-18T02:02:01Z")
I equally hate that fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/397 "2023-01-18T02:50:54Z")
Only took a few days from when i mentioned needing to get myself a new truck to this. ![20230117_163338](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/f/9f2739a3f164e75c8d9f35c4484c24e213738802.jpeg) My daughter managed to ruin my/her $400 score. Now i have to prioritize: Fix this Fix my redline Vue Fix my Envoy Not buy an EV. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/398 "2023-01-21T13:33:19Z")
![oUEXY8842bbS](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/1/91e6398f4f64df98be9b9223403133571d4278e4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/399 "2023-01-24T23:07:42Z")
Interesting. This is more related to hybrids, but you’d imagine similar litigation with electrics: > **[Jeep Is In Hot Water About 4xe Hybrids In Cold Weather](https://carbuzz.com/news/jeep-is-in-hot-water-about-4xe-hybrids-in-cold-weather)** > > Law firm Keller Rohrback Complex Litigation has issued a call to action for Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe and Wrangler 4xe hybrid owners that are unable to drive purely in electric mode in cold weather due to an "engineering function." ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/400 "2023-01-25T04:35:54Z")
Doesn’t the f150 ev get like 70 miles in the cold lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=21)