# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/441 "2023-04-12T11:04:09Z")
Y’all are overlooking solid state batteries. Buy a bunch of QS and have your retirement all set. But to a bunch of your points the current cars are not made for road tripping. Either have a second gas powered vehicle or rent something. We’ve never charged our tesla anywhere but home. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/442 "2023-04-12T12:02:53Z")
If I had to get a commuter car for short distance I’d get a Tesla. But there are too many times I need to drive long distance, and to places without fast enough charging. There appear to be vehicles on the horizon with 500+ range, but that only gets me there. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/443 "2023-04-12T12:18:53Z")
[https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-unveils-toughest-ever-car-emissions-rules-bid-force-electric-vehicle-purchases](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-unveils-toughest-ever-car-emissions-rules-bid-force-electric-vehicle-purchases) ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/444 "2023-04-12T13:17:24Z")
![Screenshot_20230412_090923_Instagram](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/d/1d47cc9678846f0eaba321fb8907f9ef455b37bd.jpeg) Edit: Lithium prices are coming back down to earth. Hope it holds so I don’t get hammered with 7 figure cost overruns. (upload://4b1FTe5nMNI3OYa9Xxn6VrGbr8V.jpeg) ## Lithium carbonate prices sank by 60% year-to-date to under CNY 215,000 in April, the lowest in 17 months, as robust output and weak demand continued to raise expectations of a supply surplus this year. The Chinese government ended cash subsidies for households purchasing new energy vehicles, pressuring demand for battery-powered vehicles and increasing stocks throughout the country. The overproduction of batteries at the end of 2022 to take advantage of subsidies also attributed to the unsustainable inventory growth and prompted the sale of goods at a steep discount, with sharp capacity cuts in all streams of the supply chain. The bearish outlook persisted in the near term despite the EU’s decision to phase out carbon-emitting cars by 2035 and reports on processing rate reductions from multiple carbonate producers. Furthermore, Reuters said that Chinese manufacturers agreed on a price floor of CNY 250,000 per tonne to combat the slump. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/9/998eb976f993b3bcce3030ef11bde9c8a0c597cb.png) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/445 "2023-04-19T14:26:58Z")
4/10/23… “EV’s so heavy parking garages may collapse” > **[Heavy EVs Could Collapse Old Parking Garages: Report](https://www.thedrive.com/news/heavy-evs-could-collapse-old-parking-garages-report)** > > Cars keep getting heavier, and experts are worried that aging parking garages simply weren't built to cope. 4/18/23… “Parking garage in NYC collapses, cause unclear” > **[NYC deadly parking garage collapse: Building had 4 active violations, cause...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-deadly-parking-garage-collapse-building-4-active-violations-cause-pancaked-structure-unclear)** > > The cause of a parking garage collapse in Lower Manhattan remains unclear as investigations continue. Reports indicate the building had active violations. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/446 "2023-04-24T11:42:56Z")
Well now… ![h1lWbEhygIQr](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/8/48d74bd9e48a7d6d7f7833fed7a55fca61073832.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/447 "2023-04-24T11:52:50Z")
Electric cars are pretty fucking gay, so it tracks. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/448 "2023-04-30T01:03:39Z")
![hfodU8rEpdo3](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/8/083d539346e9ca967d0933935dcdfff5c4020cda.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/449 "2023-05-01T11:13:44Z")
Which means someone just needs to hack the existing system… ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/450 "2023-05-01T11:39:49Z")
> [@LUC1F3R](#): > > Which means someone just needs to hack the existing system… True, but imagine messing this up. The EPA is already tracking down and fining truck modders who remove emissions controls from their diesel trucks. In this perfect utopia, your vehicle knows it’s been hacked and reports your increased “performance” to the local highway department where they calculate it’s environmental impact. Then the authorities increase your state mandated milage tax by .05% ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/451 "2023-05-01T11:46:34Z")
That scenario is probably going to happen in our lifetime. Maybe i should invest in Holley to make a fortune when carbs make a comback. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/452 "2023-05-01T11:48:22Z")
Car manufactures looked at the gaming world and they’re starting to copy that model. You used to buy a 100% complete fully functional game, where as now you basically get a shell of the game and have to complete it buying several packs of DLC. 10 years from now you’ll be buying a roller and paying monthly sub’s to keep it a functional car. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/453 "2023-05-01T14:08:26Z")
Its going to look like Cuba here I’m telling you. Everyone will keep and restore their old cars forever. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/454 "2023-05-01T14:33:37Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > Its going to look like Cuba here I’m telling you. Everyone will keep and restore their old cars forever. Except for the fact that you can’t do that with modern cars. You can keep a 50’s chevy running forever because it’s so simple. Good luck doing that with a 2023 F150. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/455 "2023-05-01T14:42:06Z")
> **[Building The World's First Carbureted Gen-V LT Stroker Engine](https://www.holley.com/blog/post/building_the_world_s_first_carbureted_gen-v_lt_stroker_engine/)** > > Is this the world's first carbureted Gen-V LT stroker engine build? Gibbons Motorsports took on the challenge a customer presented them and wound up with this 615 horsepower 417ci unit! ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/456 "2023-05-01T15:08:33Z")
awe there is plenty of 90s and early 2000s cars out there that are simple enough. Even a 2023, I can run the engine off a stand alone ECU and get it moving down the road easy enough. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/457 "2023-05-07T01:00:46Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/458 "2023-05-07T10:40:56Z")
People are buying panels before knowing if they can connect to the grid? > In one case, energy provider Xcel told a Minnesota customer it would take 15 years to connect a rooftop solar system to the company’s grid. > **[Thousands of Americans Try To Take Advantage of Biden's Solar Subsidies. They...](https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/thousands-of-americans-try-to-take-advantage-of-bidens-solar-subsidies-they-cant-connect-to-a-power-grid/)** > > Shortly after President Joe Biden offered tax credits to anyone buying solar panels, a Colorado homeowner named Stacie took out loans to install $30,000 worth of panels on her roof. Nearly six months later, however, those panels sat unused,... @JayS can you install panels and NOT connect to the grid? Is that even an option? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/459 "2023-05-07T20:22:15Z")
You’d just need a battery to use the panels without being tied into the grid. The grid just makes it a lot cheaper to install because instead of storing your power in an expensive battery you just feed it back into the grid and get credits. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/460 "2023-05-08T13:54:17Z")
I’m sure the lady that took out a $30K loan for the solar doesn’t have the extra cash sitting around to toss in 8-10K worth of batteries tho. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=24)