# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/541 "2023-11-03T15:27:36Z")
toyota is pissing money away on a lot of stupid shit these days ---
**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/542 "2023-11-03T16:01:33Z")
Purposely putting technology into making the car stall or feel like it’s stalling is so dumb ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/543 "2023-11-03T18:29:21Z")
The only possible value would be if they can simulate hundreds of cool cars. I can see it now. DLC for your POS so you can pretend to know how to drive a stick. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/544 "2023-11-03T20:17:28Z")
C’mon this is kinda cool… > I asked the engineer riding with me if you could hypothetically do a technique used by drifters called a “clutch kick.” This is when a drifter quickly presses and releases the clutch pedal to send a shock through to the rear wheels to help break the rear end loose. He confirmed that’s something that could be done. ---
**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/545 "2023-11-04T01:31:27Z")
If it’s actually a working clutch, that thing better be beefy, the instant torque of e-motors are going to fry the drivetrain. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/546 "2023-11-05T01:59:04Z")
It’s not it’s all simulated ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/547 "2023-11-05T14:56:44Z")
Sounds like it wouldbe interesting for a few minutes. But only if you can download cool car profiles. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/548 "2023-11-09T11:35:52Z")
Interestingly they talk about fire codes for commercial ramps. I wonder if we’re one bad fire away from a state or local politician mandating fire suppression for EVs in homes. 🤔 > **[Best Way to Extinguish a Flaming Electric Vehicle? Let It Burn ](https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/best-way-to-extinguish-a-flaming-electric-vehicle-let-it-burn-f1fa2b53)** > > Fire departments across America are wrestling with fires in EV cars that last longer and are harder to extinguish. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/549 "2023-11-09T16:45:18Z")
I think the real danger would be a ramp under a skyscraper. Imagine if several EVs were allowed to burn and ignited other cars in the ramp? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/550 "2023-11-09T18:07:27Z")
I wonder if it could melt steel I-beams. ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/551 "2023-11-09T23:38:26Z")
There’s a few racing organizations that I race with that have banned EV’s because they don’t have the proper equipment to put out a fire if it should happen. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/552 "2023-11-25T12:26:52Z")
Why not just ban Chinese EVs and dispense with all half measures? > Washington has effectively built a fortress to keep out Chinese EVs. Former President Donald Trump imposed a 25% tax on Chinese auto imports. President Biden backed that policy and went further, denying them “Buy America” credits that can reduce consumers’ price tag by thousands of dollars. > > “China is determined to dominate the electric-vehicle market by using unfair trade practices, but I will not let them,” Biden told auto-union workers in Illinois earlier this month. “I promise you.” > > Biden administration officials, meanwhile, say they have learned hard lessons from China’s rise to dominate American manufacturers in industries such as solar panels and steel. > Meanwhile, Chinese automakers are preparing to assemble EVs in or near the U.S. to avoid the tariffs. Polestar, a luxury EV brand owned by Chinese automaker Geely and its Volvo unit, plans to start production in South Carolina next year. Another Chinese auto manufacturer, Chery, is building a plant in Mexico, and BYD and SAIC-owned MG are ramping up their presence in that country. > **[Why Americans Can’t Buy Cheap Chinese Electric Vehicles](https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/why-americans-cant-buy-cheap-chinese-electric-vehicles-53473383)** > > The U.S. has built a fortress to keep out Chinese EVs, even as millions sell around the world. ---
**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/553 "2023-11-25T21:07:12Z")
It’s incredible to me that we would even allow Chinese/Communist manufacturers to build/own property in the US. Being one of the newest nations, we sure do forget our history real quick. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/554 "2023-11-26T05:21:53Z")
> [@Onyx\_Z32](#): > > [Auto Execs Are Coming Clean: EVs Aren't Working](https://www.businessinsider.com/auto-executives-coming-clean-evs-arent-working-2023-10) i’ve been hearing a lot of this from dealers themselves. best move thus far as been to hold off on the EV roll outs that require major infrastructure build-out like Ford’s. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/555 "2023-12-01T11:34:53Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/8/68a7ed0eee27a4b64890ee3bd10cb92b3ffa9ba8.jpeg "Dealerships urge President Biden to slow government EV mandates") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwE5wXEuT8k) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/556 "2023-12-07T00:48:25Z")
Congress pumping the brakes on the EV sham. > **[Some Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down Biden's EV mandate](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-bidens-ev-mandate)** > > The House on Wednesday voted to pass legislation blocking the Biden administration's regulations targeting gas cars, a key part of the president's climate agenda. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/557 "2023-12-07T12:21:51Z")
Good, it shouldnt be forced. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/558 "2023-12-07T12:32:09Z")
Some more great Bidenomics… > **[Biden's billion-dollar plan to build 500,000 EV chargers has yet to yield a...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-billion-dollar-plan-build-500000-ev-chargers-has-yet-yield-single-charger)** > > President Biden's landmark 2021 infrastructure legislation included billions of dollars to fund 500,000 electric vehicle chargers, but just eight chargers are under construction. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/559 "2023-12-17T22:55:06Z")
“Marketing” ![20231217_175423](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/5/f5ec84310650fa99330b503d68a176efc8ee8a3f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/560 "2023-12-18T11:28:17Z")
All of Canada. So what happens to the prices of gas cars when there’s no supply, but still demand? 🤔 🤌 > CBC News has learned that Ottawa will release final regulations it says will ensure that all new passenger cars sold in Canada by 2035 are zero-emission vehicles, a senior government source said. > > …20 per cent of all vehicles sold to be zero-emissions vehicles by 2026. That target rises to 60 per cent by 2030, and 100 per cent by 2035. > **[Ottawa expected to release promised EV sales regulations Tuesday | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/electric-vehicle-ev-guilbeault-1.7061381)** > > CBC News has learned that automakers are expected to get a jolt Tuesday when the federal government unveils its promised electric vehicle (EV) regulations. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045.md?page=29)