# The Rapid Move To All Electric (But Real Goal = No Personal Cars)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 10, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045 "2020-11-10T21:14:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/581 "2024-01-12T16:07:37Z")

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> [@drvnkd](#):
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> That seemed interesting for a minute.
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> Until I realized replacing my commuter car for 20 with one that will be free to own and charge will take me 10 years to break even.

But Muh Earth!

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/582 "2024-01-12T20:26:36Z")

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> [@fairgentleman\_Z](#):
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> Tesla sales were to rental companies?

Oh I was just pointing out that it’s a sweet deal. If I needed a round-town car I’d be interested. But I don’t at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/583 "2024-01-13T22:32:42Z")

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Whoops. Better go charge in the middle of the work day.

[https://twitter.com/CanadaRecord/status/1745992825727033655?t=BfUXx9Mpd77cmer1mJAI7g&s=19](https://twitter.com/CanadaRecord/status/1745992825727033655?t=BfUXx9Mpd77cmer1mJAI7g&s=19)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/584 "2024-01-19T16:13:56Z")

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/585 "2024-01-19T16:39:31Z")

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lmao nice

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/586 "2024-01-19T16:53:56Z")

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> **[Ford Prepares To Cut F-150 Lightning Electric Truck Production](https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ford-prepares-cut-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-production)**
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> "Roughly 700 will transfer to Michigan Assembly Plant and the others..." 

been hearing this from Ford dealers. People buying the Lightning then returning it as soon as they try to do truck things with it. I can think of very few things that are more vaccinated than this.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/587 "2024-01-19T17:07:26Z")

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> **[Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold:...](https://nypost.com/2024/01/16/news/chicago-area-tesla-charging-stations-lined-with-dead-cars-in-freezing-cold-a-bunch-of-dead-robots-out-here/)**
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> Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/588 "2024-01-24T15:36:35Z")

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I love “Havana Effect” as a frame for this 🇨🇺

> German lawmaker Jens Gieseke, who represented the party in discussions on CO2 standards for vehicles, has criticized what they call the Commission’s “prohibition ideology.” Gieseke has long warned against the decision to phase out combustion engine vehicles, predicting a “Havana effect,” with Europeans continuing to drive old combustion-powered cars for decades, akin to the situation in the Cuban capital.

> **[Europe's Largest Political Party Wants To Stop The Combustion Engine Ban](https://www.motor1.com/news/705837/eep-leaked-election-manifesto-ice-ban/)**
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> The center-right European People’s Party group (EPP) expresses commitment to the phased-out approach of combustion engines in Europe.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/589 "2024-01-24T19:57:47Z")

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> **[New tires every 7,000 miles? Electric cars save gas but tire wear shocks some...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-vehicles-great-mileage-pricey-141209778.html)**
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> “If somebody looked at me and said ... you are going to love this car but in about 7,000 miles you will have to pay 1,400 or 1,500 dollars to replace the tires, I wouldn’t have bought the car.”

😂😂😂😂

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/590 "2024-01-26T12:24:50Z")

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This is why we need the Tweel

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/6/2634abcf33dde5f59fa5866a05c6331fc00cec50.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/591 "2024-01-26T14:27:49Z")

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The tweel would do nothing to improve rolling resistance and tread life at the same ride quality. Retread-able tweel may reduce long term cost? Still haven’t seen a tweel promo producing lateral force.

Opinion, not fact based: Issue with low rolling resistance compounds is that the wear really fast in anything other than highway use. Last rental car challenge that I did corded all (4) tires in 50 runs (rotated 30 runs in) (FWD Hyundai?) Previous car example, Camaro V6 auto with “performance” tires 3/32nds wear with 60 runs?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/592 "2024-01-26T14:44:57Z")

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Rate the tires on a Jeep that I recently rented…

 ![PSX_20240126_094246](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/6/a6081c3633a7890e6ca1198117b752e35597a8c5.jpeg)

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Also, this…

 ![20240126_094026](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/0/90076820a82b0b5f3216efecb7ba6e1c6e0d585f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/593 "2024-01-26T15:39:15Z")

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> [@Onyx\_Z32](#):
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> Rate the tires on a Jeep that I recently rented…

10 out of 10 for an easy win in a civil liability case, would settle before trial.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/594 "2024-01-26T19:26:00Z")

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Someone rented that jeep for the free tire swap when their personal jeep needed new ones

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/595 "2024-02-01T13:38:57Z")

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saw my first cybertruck in person, driving down my street in clarence yesterday while i was walking the dog. Looks great in person, the headlight pattern is the most unique on the road.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/596 "2024-02-01T17:29:32Z")

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As much as I want to hate it, Tesla killed it in my opinion with the design. EV’s give you the freedom to make basically any design and they capitalized on it.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/597 "2024-02-01T18:09:00Z")

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I like that they can go outside the norm. It’d be nice to see more stylized designs on their cars now.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/598 "2024-02-02T00:54:59Z")

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I really want to see a coach builder business model slapping interesting bodies onto Tesla “skateboards”.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/599 "2024-02-02T13:14:34Z")

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rapid-move-to-all-electric-but-real-goal-no-personal-cars/1414045/600 "2024-02-06T03:40:39Z")

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