# The rich don't pay their fair share in taxes!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 14, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420 "2008-05-14T10:26:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/101 "2008-05-21T07:45:11Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Amazing how every other state manages to have police and fire with 1/4th the taxes NY does though. ding ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/102 "2008-05-21T07:46:15Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Amazing how every other state manages to have police and fire with 1/4th the taxes NY does though. :word: It(taxes) is like taking candy from a baby in NY though. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/103 "2008-05-21T07:48:03Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > if they get rid of the cops and fire department, you have more to lose šŸ˜› remember that he built this house. The town was recieveing $700 / year from that property before AWD built his house. The town was accounting for $700 a year from Mike, and they were doing fine with budgeting based on that. He really is giving them a donation of $13,300. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/104 "2008-05-21T07:52:14Z")
I guess I pretty much screwed myself because I am tied to this state at this point. My advice to young people is GTFO NOW while you can!!! Seriously, even if it was just a fleeting thought at one point, you should reconsider and GTFO now. The older you get, the more ties you have here. GTFO NOW! ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/105 "2008-05-21T08:01:06Z")
iā€™ve been contemplating getting out of here for a few years. Had jobs for me and my fiance lined up in NC, but declined it due to a nice promotion at work hereā€¦then went and bought a house. Now iā€™m partially considering it againā€¦but have no idea where to go. I know those same jobs in NC are few and far between now. I really need to get into a job doing some form of fiberglass fabrication. Something I love to do, but I wouldnt even know how/who/where to start at trying to fins something like that, with decent pay ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/106 "2008-05-21T08:12:43Z")
^Think of NY as a burning building, you donā€™t need a destination before you leave, just go anywhere else and you will be better off. Wow that was a good one, anyone is welcome to use that quote.:thankyou: ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/107 "2008-05-21T08:50:15Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Not really true. > > EX: > > $150,000 here with 5k in taxes = 894/month mortage + 417/month tax. Total payment = 1310/month. > $220,000 house with 1k in taxes = 1312/month mortgage + 1395 total payment. > > Yes, itā€™s a little more each month, but each month youā€™re building SO much more equity. At the end of 30 years you own a $220,000 house that has probably appreciated at a better rate than the WNY house because itā€™s not in a tax oppressed economy. > > Or, to look at it a better way, at the end of 30 years, assuming the taxes never go up (which they will) youā€™ve spent $150,000 in taxes in WNY but only $30,000 in your other state. Thatā€™s $120,000 that you basically get nothing back for (considering other states manage to provide the basics like police, fire, and roads etc for far less). I 100% understand what youā€™re saying but what else is going on in that area? Are youā€™re daily living expenses the same as here? probably not. All I am saying is there are a million factors that make it impossible to rate ā€œthe best place to liveā€, otherwise, everyone would live there. :lol: > [@Zer0DazE](#): > > or your 220k home was really worth 150k, and you over paid and then a correction happens and you lose your ass. > > oh wait, that already happened thats oneā€¦ > [@Joe](#): > > Thereā€™s a reason people born and raised in the south are all retards, and it goes beyond genetics. Their schools are horrible. Theyā€™re basically on-the-job training for fresh Northern education grads to get a couple years experience at shit money and move back north. I had friends from HS that went to southern schools, and friends in college that were from there. The first group learned stuff we learned in HS well into junior year. The second, even those that were honors students back home, ended up in remedial classes. We still get raped with medicaid, but with education, you get what you pay for. theres another big oneā€¦ many more, all Iā€™m saying is that there is good and bad everywhere. Iā€™ll take the hit on taxes, which donā€™t forget, help you on your income taxes. All in all it is one gigantic circlejerk that not even the smartest economist could definitively give you an answer. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/108 "2008-05-21T09:04:13Z")
^ I here you but it just goes against my grain to give my money to the govt.:biglaugh: If bread and milk costs more in Pennsultucky then I would rather give my money to the farmer than the tax man in NY. I have friends that could retire on their real estate gains in other states even with the current situation. So how cheap is it to live in WNY when your real esate has only gained as much as you have paid in property taxes? Thatā€™s what happened on my last house. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/109 "2008-05-21T09:28:28Z")
WNY on the whole is pretty well insulated from national marketsā€¦ you shouldā€™ve known this years ago. I think that your :tinfoilhat: is on a little too tight. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/110 "2008-05-21T10:50:30Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > WNY on the whole is pretty well insulated from national marketsā€¦ you shouldā€™ve known this years ago. > > I think that your :tinfoilhat: is on a little too tight. I did know this but I already had ā€œotherā€ ties to WNY when I was younger and ā€œless informedā€. BUT the state has gotten worse over the years to the point where young people can leave now based on the incredible imbalance(sp) to other states. The govt may be secretly be tightening my :tinfoilhat: when I am sleeping. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/111 "2008-05-21T10:53:35Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > I did know this but I already had ā€œotherā€ ties to WNY when I was younger and ā€œless informedā€. > BUT the state has gotten worse over the years to the point where young people can leave now based on the incredible imbalance(sp) to other states. > The govt may be secretly be tightening my :tinfoilhat: when I am sleeping. lol. :fuzzyfish: Iā€™m stuck here for similar reasons, for at least a few more years. :cheers: ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/112 "2008-05-21T11:34:46Z")
The taxes here are just fucking retarded. No one in public life is even willing to talk about why. In case you donā€™t know, itā€™s the goddamn public employee unions. Thatā€™s at the local/state level. At the Federal level, just you wait and see what happens if Billary or especially Barrack H. Obama get elected. They are going to go after all of us ā€œrich white menā€ who are the cause of all the problems in the US and even the whole rest of the world, at least in the eyes of BHO, his pastor, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Osama Bama Bin Laden, et al. IOW, you aint seen nuthin yet. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/113 "2008-09-25T15:51:17Z")
Well, it just came in. $7130 for school taxes. This is after the lowering of my assessment. The irony is that I will probably send my daughter ICC school(recently ranked #1), not public school. I need a drink. ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/114 "2008-09-25T16:01:24Z")
I really feel bad for you I mean seriouslyā€¦ building your own home and having to pay taxes on itā€¦ OOOOOOOOOOOOOO MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Should have done your research ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/115 "2008-09-25T16:06:14Z")
You are a retard. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/116 "2008-09-25T16:12:32Z")
Well if you can afford it right. More money = More problems. How much was it lowered total after the assessment? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/117 "2008-09-25T16:19:47Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > ā€¦More money = More problems. > > How much was it lowered total after the assessment? Truth x 100. The assessors office was very good at never giving me exact amounts. I could have pushed them but, they already seemed annoyed and I really didnā€™t want to piss them off because they basically have you by the balls. I thought it would be a little under $14,000 but then I started to realize the numbers they gave me did not include a couple of additional taxes I have to pay. Why would they not give me the total I will never know. If someone walks in and asks what their taxes are wouldnā€™t you assume they would give the total? There are plenty of other homes in EA that donā€™t pay anywhere near what I pay but could get a higher selling price. I think I mentioned this before but, the new homes carry a HUGE load. Maybe they are trying to ā€œtake care ofā€ the longtime residents. Check out this mansion/estate right down the street from my house. The taxes are 40% lower!!! [http://property.buffaloniagarahomes.com/property/detail.cfm?mlnum=314671&property\_type=1](http://property.buffaloniagarahomes.com/property/detail.cfm?mlnum=314671&property_type=1) Like I said before, I would not be bitching if I only had to pay $10,000 or so. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/118 "2008-09-25T16:26:01Z")
My salary thanks you for paying your taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/119 "2008-09-25T16:29:56Z")
^Ohh, I see, that explains your socialist ideals. Now it all makes sense. I can now assume you are getting paid twice what you should and that is why you donā€™t mind taxes because it shouldnā€™t have been your money to begin with.šŸ˜› Hereā€™s anotherā€¦ LESS THAN HALF THE TAXES!!! [http://property.buffaloniagarahomes.com/property/detail.cfm?mlnum=320162&property\_type=1](http://property.buffaloniagarahomes.com/property/detail.cfm?mlnum=320162&property_type=1) ---
**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-rich-dont-pay-their-fair-share-in-taxes/48420/120 "2008-09-25T16:37:27Z")
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