# The Secret Effort to Kill Health Care Reform **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [September 29, 2009, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165 "2009-09-29T07:21:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/41 "2009-10-02T07:57:26Z")
WTF are you talking about? I posted snopes! ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/42 "2009-10-02T07:59:40Z")
They have anti-virus checkers that scan your e-mail in something like Outlook before you ever open it and delete it if it contains a virus or trojan or anything. With all of the propaganda it sounds like you receive you need one that scans all of your e-mail through Snopes and automatically deletes the BS. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/43 "2009-10-02T08:03:20Z")
So you think this is BS even though it is on snopes? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/44 "2009-10-02T08:08:06Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > The “IN GOD WE TRUST” is on the edge/rim so you really can’t see it and it will wear off in no time. Nice. > > [New Dollar Coins and 'In God We Trust' | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp) Um, snopes says that it’s an unlikely claim, and that the act was reversed in 2008 by Congress and moved to the bottom left corner of the front. ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/45 "2009-10-02T08:08:23Z")
snopes says many things are false that are indeed true. Im not saying the coin thing is true and i havent looked into it so i am will not comment on it. But there are many confirmed quotes by past and present political leaders that snopes says are false. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/46 "2009-10-02T08:13:52Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > The Latest Rasmussen Poll - 56% Opposed To ObamaCare. > Only 41% Favor Government Health Care Takeover. That means there are more rich people then poor people That’s better than bad ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/47 "2009-10-02T08:16:04Z")
I just pulled a dime out of my pocket that was minted in 1987 and has clearly been in circulation most of that time by it’s considerable wear. The little “treads” on the outside edge seem just as good as the other 1997 dime I have. I really doubt the edge printed In God We Trust will be wearing off that quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/48 "2009-10-02T08:18:59Z")
Who cares. “In God We Trust” shouldn’t even be on our money anyway. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/49 "2009-10-02T08:56:38Z")
.:picard: ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/50 "2009-10-02T09:40:17Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Someone should install an integrated Snopes checker into BED’s e-mail that works like an antivirus client. Would just pop up ERROR: BULLSHIT DETECTED before he even read it, and save everyone a lot of time 😃 :bigclap: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/51 "2009-10-02T10:32:20Z")
what is so legitimate about snopes? who the hell runs it? what are their qualifications? ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/52 "2009-10-02T10:39:10Z")
It doesnt seem like a pressing issue to me. I dont need anything about god written on the money i use to know i have faith in him. We often seem to do lots of very very eil things in this country in the name of god. Bush said we were liberating the people of iraq in the name of god. 1 million dead iraqi’s later has to at least make you wonder whether or not thats what god would have wanted. Im reminded of a quote by martin luther king jr. “Dont let anybody make you think that god chose america as his divine messianic force to be, or the sought out policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with judegment and it seems that i can hear god saying to america, you are too arrogant. If you do not change your ways, I will rise up, and break the backbone of your power, and ill place it in the hands of a nation that doesnt even know my name” ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/53 "2009-10-02T10:40:05Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > what is so legitimate about snopes? who the hell runs it? what are their qualifications? > **[Snopes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com)** > > Snopes (/ˈsnoʊps/), formerly known as the Urban Legends Reference Pages, is a fact-checking website. It has been described as a "well-regarded reference for sorting out myths and rumors" on the Internet. The site has also been seen as a source for both validating and debunking urban legends and similar stories in American popular culture. > In 1994, David and Barbara Mikkelson created an urban folklore web site that would become Snopes.com. Snopes was an early online encyclopedia focused on urb... > Snopes receives more complaints that it is too liberal than that it is too conservative, but insists that it applies the same debunking standards to all political stories. [FactCheck](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck) reviewed a sample of Snopes’ responses to political rumors regarding [George W. Bush](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush), [Sarah Palin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin) and [Barack Obama](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama), and found them to be free from bias in all cases. FactCheck noted that Barbara Mikkelson was a Canadian citizen (and thus unable to vote in American elections) and David Mikkelson was an independent who was once a registered Republican. “You’d be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people,” David Mikkelson told them. ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/54 "2009-10-02T10:40:29Z")
exactly thank you. Some of their stuff is legit, but a lot of it is them just relying on interviews with people who lied about what they are inquiring about in the first place. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > what is so legitimate about snopes? who the hell runs it? what are their qualifications? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/55 "2009-10-02T10:42:33Z")
meh, I am sure they are right about most of the bs stories, but I still find it odd, how much people trust their word. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/56 "2009-10-02T10:45:32Z")
what in the hell is going on in here ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/57 "2009-10-02T10:46:54Z")
The only claims I’ve seen that snopes was “wrong” are by the very conspiracy theorists who are being debunked. IE, 9/11 truther morons saying snopes is wrong because they don’t believe the government orchestrated 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/58 "2009-10-02T12:04:07Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > what in the hell is going on in here rumors on the internets ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/59 "2009-10-02T12:06:12Z")
that were gonna have a draft? ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165/60 "2009-10-02T12:29:24Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > that were gonna have a draft? obamas takin away jesus and our guns [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-secret-effort-to-kill-health-care-reform/74165.md?page=2)