# The Shop CT-stay away **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [November 13, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300 "2011-11-13T01:47:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/41 "2011-11-13T13:28:20Z")
> [@FS: 2002 Impreza WRX Wagon (Sold)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2002-impreza-wrx-wagon-sold/46000/18): > > Most tuners DO NOT lock their tunes. On a GM ECU, locking actually changes the seed/key and renders the PCM useless to anyone but the original tuner (as in it can’t even be reflashed PERIOD). It’s really not a nice thing to do. The only time I could even see doing it is if you were offering some sort of warranty on the vehicle and you didn’t want the customer to mess with the tune. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/42 "2011-11-13T13:33:31Z")
Anthony also unlocked the PCM on the Ultima and sorted that pile of a tune out as well. the shop. lolz EVERY shop has their stories, all depends on who you talk to. I’m sure there are people that can say stuff about me as well, but in this line of work you certainly cannot please everyone. Without diving into it too much, I’ve rebuilt more than one motor tuned in their place. Shitty tune? Shitty driver? Just plain old shitty luck? Who knows really. Will I recommend someone to them at this point…nope. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/43 "2011-11-13T13:38:26Z")
Totally understand… Also believe part is what jdaniels said, tuners don’t want a customer to mess with the tune. Customers would be messing around with the tune then all Of a sudden something goes wrong and it’s the tuners fault. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/44 "2011-11-13T13:40:14Z")
Most timers save a copy of the tune , so proving if a cust changed it is easy ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/45 "2011-11-13T13:45:10Z")
no relation to The Shop in Clifton Park, right? I saw a sign tacked on a telephone pole ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/46 "2011-11-13T14:21:29Z")
I should post some pictures of that blue impreza I bought that had work done by the shop. Some of the things on it simply amazed me. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/47 "2011-11-13T14:29:16Z")
only legit dude at the shop is my boy kenny. john can’t tune evos. jimmy is ok. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/48 "2011-11-13T15:01:09Z")
> [@Chuck Liddell on Kimbo slice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chuck-liddell-on-kimbo-slice/46247/63): > > Not true , Anthony and I have unlocked gm pcm,s and reused em in the same car . Jammers is one of them cause Howard locked it as a last Fuck u to him There’s only 2 ways that I know of to do it. 1)brute force seed/key finding software 2)desoldering the chip and pulling the seed/key and re-installing it. Both are something that 99% of customers aren’t able to do and for most people, it would be cheaper to purchase a new PCM than to pay someone to do it. It’s really an asshole thing to do, wish people would stop locking PCM’s. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/49 "2011-11-13T15:25:50Z")
> [@what a sh\*ty G35 v.poop](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-a-sh-ty-g35-v-poop/46590/6): > > Seamus left there already? Dam he relocated for that too didnt he? i dont think hes ever been able to keep much of a job. lol ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/50 "2011-11-13T15:28:52Z")
A home tuner would not be able to do it right . But if it is a in depth tune it sure is worth it getting it done . I don’t like the whole locking thing either but it is done for whatever reason more places are doing it so the cust has to come back. Prolly ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/51 "2011-11-13T15:34:10Z")
sorry but 90% of tuners lock their tune. it prevents people from fycking with it and blowing their car up which puts the blame on the tuner. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/52 "2011-11-13T15:43:17Z")
Like I said its easy to prove if a tune was fucked with . Besides what tuner puts a warranty on there tunes ? ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/53 "2011-11-13T15:46:16Z")
its not about a warranty. ill reply more when im not on my phone protects the integrity of the tuning company/software. car runs aem standalone, dumbass fucks with tune, car blows up. owner states aem software sucks ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/54 "2011-11-13T15:53:40Z")
> [@Official Twisties & Hill-climb Rd. Thread?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-twisties-hill-climb-rd-thread/46601/4): > > sorry but 90% of tuners lock their tune. it prevents people from fycking with it and blowing their car up which puts the blame on the tuner. Bullshit. Most GOOD tuners will agree that locking a tune is complete horseshit. If we’re going to throw around bullshit numbers, 99% of tunes that are locked are hiding how LITTLE WORK they actually did. > [@\*\*\*Official: My Bubble Tea Sunday Meets\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-my-bubble-tea-sunday-meets/45196/241): > > Besides what tuner puts a warranty on there tunes ? On the tune being good, sure. On the car? FUCK NO. :lol ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/55 "2011-11-13T15:57:25Z")
> [@FS: 1998 CBR 600 F3](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1998-cbr-600-f3/45990/75): > > I do understand though however that nothing is guarenteed to be problem free and when you arte pushing the enevolpe on power you cant always control everything that is going to happen. Or when you’re not pushing the envelope apparently ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/56 "2011-11-13T16:06:07Z")
Well out of the three hks tuners i know they all lock software. They will unlock it though for another tuner. But you cant even get hks software anyways so its a moot point. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/57 "2011-11-13T16:19:15Z")
> [@Official Twisties & Hill-climb Rd. Thread?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-twisties-hill-climb-rd-thread/46601/4): > > sorry but 90% of tuners lock their tune. it prevents people from fycking with it and blowing their car up which puts the blame on the tuner. Maybe I’m a little more cynical. I think tuners lock their tunes that way customers aren’t able to download the map and hook up their friends with similar setups for a few bucks, in essence skipping the need for a tuner again and costing the tuners sales. my tuner however, never locked my ecu before. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/58 "2011-11-13T16:24:47Z")
> [@Official Twisties & Hill-climb Rd. Thread?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-twisties-hill-climb-rd-thread/46601/6): > > But you cant even get hks software anyways so its a moot point. Or can you? [http://openuser.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/user/momosyuke777](http://openuser.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/user/momosyuke777) ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/59 "2011-11-13T16:33:54Z")
have fun with registrations. theyre all logged. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/60 "2011-11-13T16:39:28Z")
> [@Official Twisties & Hill-climb Rd. Thread?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-twisties-hill-climb-rd-thread/46601/4): > > sorry but 90% of tuners lock their tune. it prevents people from fycking with it and blowing their car up which puts the blame on the tuner. Stop rewording my posts. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300.md?page=4)