# The Shop CT-stay away

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [November 13, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300 "2011-11-13T01:47:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-shop-ct-stay-away/261300/100 "2011-11-14T09:42:45Z")

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> [@Off road meet?4-4-08](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/off-road-meet-4-4-08/46178/81):
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> I know nothing about it. In response to alex’s car being tuned on the brink of explosion like krazy said **i highly doubt that**.
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> Neither eric’s nor alex’s cars were tuned on the brink of explosion, nor was it what they asked for. And if alex’s tune was anything like erics tune which **i would imagine** it is close, it wasn’t even in the ball park of a mildly aggressive. Pushing the envelope of power and 500+hp per liter doesnt mean you are tuning them on the brink of explosion **sure you might break parts** , but they can be tuned in a safe zone still.
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> Now the superchargers and turbocharger kits that come with locked systems are typically very limited, you aren’t paying for a tuning service like travis, you payed for the kit and the parts/tune to make the kit run on a stock engine. not for the service or a tunable EMS. Those kits do come with very conservative tuning solutions out of the box, that have limited adjustment for the same reasons everyone listed they don’t want anyone messing with it. If it came with an AEM EMS or something of the like that, and the software wouldn’t allow me to use the AEM EMS unless they touched it then we have a different story.
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> I guess it all depends on how the tuner handled the transaction if you bought an EMS that can be end user adjusted, and the tuner didnt tell you that you wont be able to make those adjustments then there is a problem. If you knew up front and accepted it that then so be it. At least you made the choice.

Bold 1 & 2, like I said its a :dunno. That opens the doors for outsiders to more or less fabricate their own opinions, positively or negatively about the shop. Only way to keep that from happening is to not even comment about the situation, right?

Bold 3, that SHOULD be expected by anyone modding something. Should be isnt always the case. Again, the only way to stop the should be’s is with a concrete disclaimer and a level headed customer.

I am not finding fault at all with you, the customers/friends, or Synapse at all. Just playing the neutral party and making comment. I just see it all the time, people thinking they are buying bullet proof sky is the limit performance, then crying about it when something lets go and pointing (usually wrongfully) at the shop who built it. Like Adam said a while back, if he builds it and it pops, and the customer isnt happy and demands answers, bring it to a nutral 3rd, 4th, or 5th party. He is that confidant in his abilities, he has nothing to hide. Doesnt need to “fabricate” some I told you it wasnt my fault story some may or may not choose to believe, take the word of someone that has no motive in the senerio, who can give an honest answer. POOF, disbelief be gone!

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