# The supra never loses

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563 "2004-07-06T00:34:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![93BlackTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac8455/32.png) [@93BlackTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93BlackTSi)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/21 "2004-07-06T08:56:23Z")

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the car HOLDS traction in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears…it will NEVER spin the tires…its all in how good you are in setting up a suspension. and since i work on the car, thats why i say we. and we dont use slicks.

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/22 "2004-07-06T08:59:04Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> the car HOLDS traction in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears…it will NEVER spin the tires…its all in how good you are in setting up a suspension. and since i work on the car, thats why i say we. and we dont use slicks.

sarcasm -you’re the best- /sarcasm

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**Author:** ![93BlackTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac8455/32.png) [@93BlackTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93BlackTSi)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/23 "2004-07-06T09:01:11Z")

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im not trying to be sarcastic…its the truth, that car used to spin the shit outta the tires, all you can do is change things, and work with it until you find something that works for the car

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/24 "2004-07-06T09:01:42Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> the car HOLDS traction in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears…it will NEVER spin the tires…its all in how good you are in setting up a suspension. and since i work on the car, thats why i say we. and we dont use slicks.

> [@8.1crew](#):
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> see my sig

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**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/25 "2004-07-06T09:02:56Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> And thats why I want one. But the prices on some of these are too good to be true. Well, the ones that are unmolested are pricey. But some of the ones with body kits and stuff done to them are alot cheaper then I thought. Which takes me to, why. Is there some sort of major common problem in these things?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/26 "2004-07-06T09:03:24Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> im not trying to be sarcastic…its the truth, that car used to spin the shit outta the tires, all you can do is change things, and work with it until you find something that works for the car

you may not be sarcastic but I was.

don’t quote a time of 10.6 until it runs it, that e-racing and ghey as hell

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**Author:** ![93BlackTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac8455/32.png) [@93BlackTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93BlackTSi)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/27 "2004-07-06T09:06:43Z")

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fair enough…i just dont see why everyone on this board swings off pewters nuts and basicly shuns every single outsider that comes in

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/28 "2004-07-06T09:12:18Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> fair enough…i just dont see why everyone on this board swings off pewters nuts and basicly shuns every single outsider that comes in

i like them on my nuts,it feels good!!! :kekegay:

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**Author:** ![Black\_WS6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/black_ws6/32/5952_2.png) [@Black\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Black_WS6)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/29 "2004-07-06T09:17:05Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> i just dont see why everyone on this board swings off pewters nuts and basicly shuns every single outsider that comes in

I don’t see why new people come on here and rag on other’s cars and spouting about times their car WILL run with this and that done to them.

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/30 "2004-07-06T09:27:30Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> fair enough…i just dont see why everyone on this board swings off pewters nuts and basicly shuns every single outsider that comes in

i don’t think anyone is on anyones nuts here…

but you coming on here calling people out is not the best way about things… get your buddy on here put his timeslip in the database and when he does and he hits the #1 spot then we will say he is the fastest and we will swing from his nuts… its as simple as that

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/31 "2004-07-06T09:28:08Z")

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> [@Black\_WS6](#):
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> I don’t see why new people come on here and rag on other’s cars and spouting about times their car WILL run with this and that done to them.

HEY! my car will run…

everytime I turn the key. unless it breaks then it won’t run till I fix it. I havn’t had that problem yet so no worries 😃

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/32 "2004-07-06T09:28:59Z")

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> [@whitey](#):
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> i don’t think anyone is on anyones nuts here…
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> but you coming on here calling people out is not the best way about things… get your buddy on here put his timeslip in the database and when he does and he hits the #1 spot then we will say he is the fastest and we will swing from his nuts … its as simple as that

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/33 "2004-07-06T09:33:30Z")

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man he replys as slow as there soupra!!!

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**Author:** ![Black\_WS6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/black_ws6/32/5952_2.png) [@Black\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Black_WS6)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/34 "2004-07-06T09:34:30Z")

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> [@8.1crew](#):
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> man he replys as slow as there soupra!!!

:kekegay:

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**Author:** ![Tony8470](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tony8470](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tony8470)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/35 "2004-07-06T11:54:31Z")

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> [@tjZ28](#):
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> I \<3 people that think Fbodies can’t handle.

Think? It’s the truth, and unless you do some serious modifications to it. A little 4 banger will most likely beat it through the twisties. Don’t get me wrong,I would like to own one someday, but I won’t give it credit where it’s not due. And I agree, there is no better sounding engine than the 350, reason #1 why I like it. I’ll wait and see till this auction ends before I say anything about supras being cheap.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/36 "2004-07-06T12:04:13Z")

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i took second in auto x against ( my only mod supframe connectors and a loose front sway bar i even had soft v6 rear springs for drag racing) 2 new m3 bmw’s a new evo 8 w/ more hp than me and a wrx with minor suspension mods there were other cars but not worth mentioning and i lost to a race prepped e30 m3 what ever that it i still had alot better times than those people w/ supossidly great suspension cars. our cars are big but they handle alot better than you think !

Ibethegetshissouprathesametimeassmokeygetshisz06ie:neva

btw im 2 n 0 vs soupras around state college and im not even that fast driver \> \* … just think if sam drove !!! there would be football fields between me n them lol

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/37 "2004-07-06T12:07:49Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> driving in the city my friend gets about 10mpg in his black single…on the highway it does about 20-22mpg still but it also is running on an AEM basemap w/out any tuning and about 10.8 on the wideband so its quite rich. they are definately NOT slow either after you do BPU mods you will own most cars you will ever see on the street. 11.2@127 w/ 22psi, no tuning, and pump gas is a damn good time i think…wait til we come back at ya with it tuned, c16, and another 10psi. now tell me its a slow car

I watched your buddy dumping 5 gallons of race gas in that car and he admitedly runs 24psi.

Marks BPU supra is the most impressive I have seen. most don’t get out of 12’s BPU. shit most don’t get out of 12’s with a single…IRS owns the supra at the drag strip with high HP. also supra isn’t the only way to go fast and they sure as shit aren’t cheap

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/38 "2004-07-06T12:24:57Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> Think? It’s the truth, and unless you do some serious modifications to it. A little 4 banger will most likely beat it through the twisties. Don’t get me wrong,I would like to own one someday, but I won’t give it credit where it’s not due. And I agree, there is no better sounding engine than the 350, reason #1 why I like it. I’ll wait and see till this auction ends before I say anything about supras being cheap.

Why don’t you go here and take a look: [http://www.steelcities-scca.org/solo2/2004results/060604/event2-2004-results.html](http://www.steelcities-scca.org/solo2/2004results/060604/event2-2004-results.html)

Take a close look at the FStock results. Fstock is the nearly stock class (shocks but not springs and front sway bar may be changed, any DOT tire may be ran, and a cage may be added… but that’s it) for V8 Fbodies (Camaro Z28/SS, Trans Am, and Formula including WS6). Low 45s. The fastest Fstock car that day was faster than an Astock STi, barely behind a S2000 (not your typical 4 banger), and right with the WRX and Miata guys. Of course, that’s on a given track on a given day. We’re talking all of these cars within half a second. And this is **AutoX** not road racing. Get these cars on a road course and the Fbody would own big time. Then look at the ESP car’s time: mid 42s. ESP is where a mildly modded Fbody goes (springs, shocks, both sway bars, panhard rod and a few other things may be changed… but still no tubular control arms allowed front or back and such).

Those are just results I found doing a quick search of SCCA AutoXs in your area. But I suggest you just actually go to a few SCCA AutoXs and see for yourself before making more ignorant statements.

How many Fbodies have you actually owned, or even driven?

-TJ

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/39 "2004-07-06T12:30:33Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> And I agree, there is no better sounding engine than the 350, reason #1 why I like it.

small block ford sounds better than small block chevy

mustang with flowmasters\>\* as far as sound goes

🙂

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/40 "2004-07-06T12:31:37Z")

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ls1 with loud mouth \> 302 with flow masters

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