# The supra never loses

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563 "2004-07-06T00:34:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tony8470](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tony8470](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tony8470)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/41 "2004-07-06T12:33:22Z")

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Actually…My friend had a 95 trans am, I learned to drive a manual on that car. So yes, I have driven a real V8 F-body. I’m looking for skidpad results so you can pull your head out your ass.

EDIT: he also owned a v6 camaro and firebird if that makes your balls tingle any?

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/42 "2004-07-06T12:33:56Z")

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> [@2kaltima](#):
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> small block ford sounds better than small block chevy
> 
> mustang with flowmasters\>\* as far as sound goes
> 
> 🙂

Cammed, LT’ed, True Dual LS1 \> Mudstain w/ Slowbastards

-TJ

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/43 "2004-07-06T12:35:35Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> Actually…My friend had a 95 trans am, I learned to drive a manual on that car. So yes, I have driven a real V8 F-body. I’m looking for skidpad results so you can pull your head out your ass.

Stock they are mid .80s for Fbodies. Of course they come on probably the worst tire ever put on a high hp car: Goodyear RSA or GSCs. But I won’t make excuses. mid .80s are the bone stock skidpad #s for a V8 Fbody.

> [@Tony8470](#):
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> EDIT: he also owned a v6 camaro and firebird if that makes your balls tingle any?

:hahano:

-TJ

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/44 "2004-07-06T12:38:32Z")

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> [@tjZ28](#):
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> Cammed, LT’ed, True Dual LS1 \> Mudstain w/ Slowbastards
> 
> -TJ

nope, mustang sounds better than a chebbie anyday. 😃

Tony8470 - why are you arguing with someone who actually races his car and can show you actual results from races? You’re a fucktart

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**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/45 "2004-07-06T12:39:51Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> Actually…My friend had a 95 trans am, I learned to drive a manual on that car. So yes, I have driven a real V8 F-body. I’m looking for skidpad results so you can pull your head out your ass.
> 
> EDIT: he also owned a v6 camaro and firebird if that makes your balls tingle any?

hahaha u think u know but u have no idea.

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**Author:** ![EclipseRST](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@EclipseRST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EclipseRST)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/46 "2004-07-06T12:44:01Z")

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Here’s one of my friends last year, old setup before the massive upgrades over the winter. I love when people say a single turbo won;t be able to hook or get off the line. His car comes out of the hole hard on BFG drag radials and he cuts some very good 60’ times. Still working the bugs out of the new setup, but I’m trying to get him up here for the last of the Flashlight drags on the 9th of Oct.  
[10.81 run 6 speed](http://www.eastcoastperformance.net/video/Supra%201081.wmv)

From earlier before the 6 speed swap  
[11.06 Auto](http://www.eastcoastperformance.net/video/supra%2011.06%20keep.mpg)

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/47 "2004-07-06T12:44:12Z")

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> [@lt1power](#):
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> hahaha u think u know but u have no idea.

get the clutch in …the summer is comming to a end

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**Author:** ![Tony8470](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tony8470](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tony8470)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/48 "2004-07-06T12:44:32Z")

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> [@2kaltima](#):
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> Tony8470 - why are you arguing with someone who actually races his car and can show you actual results from races? You’re a fucktart

No, I’m stating the facts, his may be able to beat these little hondas and M3’s, but stock for stock I think not.

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/49 "2004-07-06T12:46:22Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> No, I’m stating the facts, his may be able to beat these little hondas and M3’s, but stock for stock I think not.

are you going by magazine stats or someone who actually does the shit in the real world? again, your a fucktart

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**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/50 "2004-07-06T12:47:15Z")

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> [@slowcamaro](#):
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> get the clutch in …the summer is comming to a end

yea tell me about it, no time tho, dunno when i will get it in.

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/51 "2004-07-06T12:48:01Z")

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get a rental car for a day or two…get errrrr done

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/52 "2004-07-06T12:49:27Z")

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> [@EclipseRST](#):
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> Here’s one of my friends last year, old setup before the massive upgrades over the winter. I love when people say a single turbo won;t be able to hook or get off the line. His car comes out of the hole hard on BFG drag radials and he cuts some very good 60’ times. Still working the bugs out of the new setup, but I’m trying to get him up here for the last of the Flashlight drags on the 9th of Oct.  
> [10.81 run 6 speed](http://www.eastcoastperformance.net/video/Supra%201081.wmv)
> 
> From earlier before the 6 speed swap  
> [11.06 Auto](http://www.eastcoastperformance.net/video/supra%2011.06%20keep.mpg)

why the hell would you swap in a 6 speed if you had an auto?

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/53 "2004-07-06T12:51:02Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> why the hell would you swap in a 6 speed if you had an auto?

autos are for sissys!!! :rolleyes: ,didnt u go 12.8 or something?

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**Author:** ![P8NT-BALLAH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@P8NT-BALLAH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/P8NT-BALLAH)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/54 "2004-07-06T12:51:31Z")

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> [@2kaltima](#):
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> small block ford sounds better than small block chevy
> 
> mustang with flowmasters\>\* as far as sound goes
> 
> 🙂

I agree 100% 🍺 :bigok: The best GM v8 I have heard is a northstar with no cats :itr41:

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**Author:** ![P8NT-BALLAH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@P8NT-BALLAH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/P8NT-BALLAH)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/55 "2004-07-06T12:52:49Z")

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> [@93BlackTSi](#):
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> the car HOLDS traction in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears…it will NEVER spin the tires…its all in how good you are in setting up a suspension. and since i work on the car, thats why i say we. and we dont use slicks.

please tell me your secret oh great one. :dunno:

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/56 "2004-07-06T12:53:23Z")

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> [@8.1crew](#):
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> autos are for sissys!!! :rolleyes: ,didnt u go 12.8 or something?

stick is good for ricer rolls

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/57 "2004-07-06T12:55:04Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> No, I’m stating the facts, his may be able to beat these little hondas and M3’s, but stock for stock I think not.

Bone stock suspension (w/ over 40k miles on it… aka worn out shocks) and on stock size Bridgestone Potenzas I beat my buddy’s '95 M3 (which has upgraded springs/shocks). We both got out cars at the same time, 4 years ago. Since day one he’s always said he’d smoke me in the turns. I, of course, smoked his ass a milion times straight line but we never really had a good chance to prove the handling arguement 'till 'bout 2 years ago when we both went to the AutoX. Like I said, my car was still on a bone stock suspension and my regular street tires. I beat him by about half a second. I will admit I probably out-drove him a bit… but by the same token there was more left in my car that I wasn’t capable of getting out of it yet. But sorry, that’s just my **real world experience… I know it doesn’t stand up to what you read in a magazine.**

-TJ

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/58 "2004-07-06T12:56:27Z")

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> [@8.1crew](#):
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> autos are for sissys!!! :rolleyes: ,didnt u go 12.8 or something?

12.9 with a shit 60ft. we will see if I can get a good 60ft in on the 16th.

no one seems to understand that the truly fast supras run auto trannies with high stalls…call VNT performance, dana westover(fastest supra on street tires in the world), MSP, titan, etc.

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**Author:** ![Tony8470](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tony8470](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tony8470)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/59 "2004-07-06T12:58:57Z")

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bah whatever, I’m not heated anymore but I’m going to stick to my guns. The thing is, with magazines, not saying they are the gospel, but they provide some sort of uniformity. The M3 driver may have well been sub-par of a driver compared to you.

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-supra-never-loses/167563/60 "2004-07-06T13:04:27Z")

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> [@Tony8470](#):
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> bah whatever, I’m not heated anymore but I’m going to stick to my guns. The thing is, with magazines, not saying they are the gospel, but they provide some sort of uniformity. The M3 driver may have well been sub-par of a driver compared to you.

Honestly, I rode with him and yeah… I out-drove him. I don’t know that I out-drove him by a full half second though. But at worst our cars were pretty evenly matched on that course. And that’s w/ him having upgraded shocks/springs and me on worn stock stuff.

I’m not heated either dude, I’m just saying don’t sell the Fbodies short in the handling dept. For a given $ amount you’ll be faster in every respect in a Fbody than a Supra. But the Supras are way cool… I’ve always given Mark props on his.

-TJ

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