# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/221 "2017-01-30T10:28:54Z")
With proper marketing we could probably make politisuck bigly profitable right about now. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/222 "2017-01-30T10:43:47Z")
i was thinking about that but right now it’s our safe space from feminists. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/223 "2017-01-30T10:54:10Z")
:rofl" ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/224 "2017-01-30T11:17:26Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > What do you say we reconvene at the close of Trump’s presidency, and if the nation is a safer, more prosperous, and he replaces the ACA with some less expensive and better for all Americans, I’ll admit I was completely wrong. If we have the inverse, you admit you were wrong? This is a mindset that very few people have. I do not think Trump is going to help this country. However, I want nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. I would spin on a fucking dime and praise his effectiveness if he can actually have a positive effect on the world despite me thinking he’s an orange, spiteful, loudmouth douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/225 "2017-01-30T11:38:15Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > This is a mindset that very few people have. I do not think Trump is going to help this country. However, I want nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. I would spin on a fucking dime and praise his effectiveness if he can actually have a positive effect on the world despite me thinking he’s an orange, spiteful, loudmouth douchebag. I agree with this bigly. On that note, what do you all think of Ajit Pai as the head of the FCC? On one hand, he’s all about expanding fiber all over the country, but on the other hand, he’s anti net neutrality as he thinks it stifles growth of a free market. It’s hard to find an article that doesn’t lean too much, but net neutrality is a hot button to press. This one isn’t too bad: > **[Net Neutrality Foe to Head the FCC](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/net-neutrality-foe-to-head-the-fcc/)** > > Under new chair Ajit Pai the agency would likely to reverse its Open Internet Order—a regulation expected to become less relevant as the Net continues to evolve Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/226 "2017-01-30T12:01:41Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > This is a mindset that very few people have. I do not think Trump is going to help this country. However, I want nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. I would spin on a fucking dime and praise his effectiveness if he can actually have a positive effect on the world despite me thinking he’s an orange, spiteful, loudmouth douchebag. For all my enjoyment of the memes and such… i agree with you. I have my doubts that all of this will make a better America for EVERYONE. But i also believe that it is up to each to make things better for themselves and that this administration will enable able and attentive people to do this. I’m building a US-based enterprise as an extension of my Canadian one and if they come down harder on illegal immigration and trade it will make my investments in doing things properly easier to profit from… and i think that is the way it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/227 "2017-01-30T12:32:28Z")
> [@bing](#): > > For all my enjoyment of the memes and such… i agree with you. I have my doubts that all of this will make a better America for EVERYONE. But i also believe that it is up to each to make things better for themselves and that this administration will enable able and attentive people to do this. There’s a balance to that. Do you think that this administration is poised to help the lower to middle class? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/228 "2017-01-30T12:40:39Z")
they’re marketing it as such. It is hard to say whether certain jobs (like Ford) really would have left and it is also difficult to say whether all of these stated investments will actually be realized inside the first term. i definitely do believe that Mexico is crushing the US with immigration and cheap labour by way of NAFTA so putting pressure on both of these is important. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/229 "2017-01-30T14:50:40Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > … Do you think that this administration is poised to help the lower to middle class? See, liberals generally have this view: that it’s the governments job to help people. Or help \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ class of people, etc. The political “right” views government as an impediment to helping people. That individuals could help others (or themselves) better if they chose how to spend their money instead of a government seizing it through taxation and washing it though the bureaucracy. Or that government will only be motivated to help those who it agrees with, is funded by, etc. Both sides are neither right or wrong: it all depends on what balance we decide a society should have. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/230 "2017-01-30T15:09:10Z")
> [@bing](#): > > they’re marketing it as such. It is hard to say whether certain jobs (like Ford) really would have left and it is also difficult to say whether all of these stated investments will actually be realized inside the first term. > > i definitely do believe that Mexico is crushing the US with immigration and cheap labour by way of NAFTA so putting pressure on both of these is important. Which jobs at Ford would have left? MAP wasn’t closing. ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/231 "2017-01-30T16:34:20Z")
My partner at work just mother fucked me for supporting the immigration hold. Literally 10 minutes passes and he complains about Starbucks and says we have US citizens without jobs, citizens should get jobs first before refugees. I quit facebook yesterday. I’m going to quit my job shortly. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/232 "2017-01-31T04:23:52Z")
The media comparing Trump’s firing of Yates to Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre should remove any remaining shreds of their credibility. It should, but it won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/233 "2017-01-31T05:18:10Z")
Just remember, it is OK for Obama to BOMB THE SHIT out of the Middle East but Trump can’t delay them at the airport for 2 hours or liberals actually cry. You cannot make this shit up. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/234 "2017-01-31T07:19:27Z")
If anyone is interested in the nitty-gritty, have a read: [https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from\_embed](https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from_embed) This is the confidential Democrat plan to fight back. If you’re on either side you should read this if you want to understand how the left works to “delegitimize Trump” and control the “media narrative.” The part about Shareblue is funny, especially for those of us who mostly get news on the web. Correct the Record failed in the meme war so it looks like they’re re-branding it and re-directing it: **“We are not waiting to see what Trump does in office. We are not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt”** The best part? In 44 pages they still don’t understand why Trump won. They still assume it’s bigotry, sexism, racism, Putin, etc. 👏 ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/235 "2017-01-31T07:27:01Z")
How do you conservative folks feel about the promotion of Bannon as a Principal member of the National Security Council while diminishing the role of the Chairman of the Join Chiefs and Director of National Intelligence. He’s effectively rolled the structure back to what it was under the Bush Administration(pre 9/11) (DNI didn’t exist at the time). I may not like Bannon, but I don’t see adding an adviser (regardless of how abhorrent I may find him) as that much of a problem. Why would a President with no military, intelligence or foreign policy experience would _eliminate_ those roles as principal members on the National Security, but keep the Secretary of Treasury? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/236 "2017-01-31T07:30:01Z")
> [@superfan99](#): > > How do you conservative folks feel about the promotion of Bannon as a Principal member of the National Security Council while diminishing the role of the Chairman of the Join Chiefs and Director of National Intelligence. He’s effectively rolled the structure back to what it was under the Bush Administration(pre 9/11) (DNI didn’t exist at the time). I may not like Bannon, but I don’t see adding an adviser (regardless of how abhorrent I may find him) as that much of a problem. But that isn’t what happened ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/237 "2017-01-31T08:19:25Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > If anyone is interested in the nitty-gritty, have a read: [Full David Brock Confidential Memo On Fighting Trump | PDF | Trump Family | Donald Trump](https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from_embed) ![https://i.redd.it/64gn4ysyzycy.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/d/5d6a9957810af6b1fc23939bedf9e413c6ffad11.png) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/238 "2017-01-31T08:35:37Z")
i thought fake new was a liberal thing… like this [#muslimban](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=muslimban) thing… basically calling it a Muslim ban when it isn’t a Muslim ban ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/239 "2017-01-31T08:39:05Z")
> [@bing](#): > > i thought fake new was a liberal thing. You’re joking, right? ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/240 "2017-01-31T08:45:34Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > But that isn’t what happened Which part? Here’s the text from the memo. > … > The PC shall have as its regular attendees the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff, the Assistant to the President and Chief Strategist, the National Security Advisor, and the Homeland Security Advisor. The Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shall attend where issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed. The Counsel to the President, the Deputy Counsel to the President for National Security Affairs, and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget may attend all PC meetings. > … > [https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/28/presidential-memorandum-organization-national-security-council-and](https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/28/presidential-memorandum-organization-national-security-council-and) I could see some reasoning behind Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, but by the same logic, why wouldn’t Defense, Treasury, State, or Homeland Security be under the same provision? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=13)