# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2501 "2020-10-14T11:22:15Z")

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So how much longer can Biden continue to hide from his Ukraine mess?

> Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.
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> The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s "never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer.

> **[Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-ukraine-burisma-adviser-email)**
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> Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine in…

That’s really damning stuff. I’m sure most of the MSM will dismiss it of course.

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**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2502 "2020-10-14T13:08:53Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> So how much longer can Biden continue to hide from his Ukraine mess?
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> I’m sure most of the MSM will dismiss it of course.

That is the answer.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2503 "2020-10-14T13:25:02Z")

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Some pretty big names are covering this today, besides the Fox link I posted:

> **[Hunter Biden Introduced Father to Burisma Adviser, New Email Shows](https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-introduced-father-burisma-121318628.html)**
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> Hunter Biden introduced his father to a Ukrainian adviser to Burisma Holdings during Joe Biden's term as vice president, according to an email revealed by the New York Post on Wednesday.Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian...

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-14/biden-s-son-introduced-him-to-ukraine-energy-official-post-says](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-14/biden-s-son-introduced-him-to-ukraine-energy-official-post-says)

> **[Biden’s Son Introduced Him to Ukraine Energy Official, Post Says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-e2-80-99s-son-introduced-him-to-ukraine-energy-official-post-says/ar-BB1a0WWm)**
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> Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, introduced him to a senior official from a Ukrainian energy firm that became the focus of controversy over the dismissal of a prosecutor who was investigating the company, the New York Post reported Wednesday,...

> **[Hunter Biden emails show leveraging connections with his father to boost...](https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-emails-show-leveraging-connections-with-dad-to-boost-burisma-pay/)**
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> Hunter Biden discussed leveraging his connection to his father in a bid to boost his pay from a Ukrainian natural gas company, according to an email he sent around the time he joined the firm’s cor…

> **[Hunter Biden introduced Ukraine gas exec to his VP dad, leaked emails claim](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12928283/joe-biden-hunter-emails-ukraine-smoking-gun/)**
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> JOE BIDEN was introduced to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm by his son Hunter while he was still Vice President, emails allegedly show. The Democratic presidential nominee’s son…

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2504 "2020-10-14T17:05:14Z")

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And now the senate is involved:

> **[Hunter Biden emails under investigation by Senate Homeland Security Committee...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-senate-homeland-security-committee-investigating-hard-drive-laptop)**
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> The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is investigating newly released emails which revealed that Hunter Biden introduced his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at Ukrainian natural gas...

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2505 "2020-10-14T19:32:32Z")

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And social media has officially started blocking links to the NY Post story:

> **[Facebook censors The Post to help Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign](https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebook-censors-the-post-to-help-joe-bidens-2020-campaign/)**
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> So much for Facebook’s claims to be a neutral platform: One of its top execs just put the social media giant firmly in the pro-Biden camp. Andy Stone, the social media company’s policy communicatio…

> **[Facebook Limited The Reach Of An Unconfirmed Story About Joe Biden’s Son...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scottlucas/facebook-limits-hunter-biden-nypost)**
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> "In many countries, including in the US, if we have signals that a piece of content is false, we temporarily reduce its distribution pending review by a third-party fact-checker."

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2506 "2020-10-14T20:22:46Z")

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#defundsocialmedia

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**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2507 "2020-10-14T20:41:50Z")

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It might help if the emails weren’t comically bad forgeries…

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2508 "2020-10-14T21:46:29Z")

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What are the odds a scandal comes to light right during/after the election that provides Biden a chance to step down and award the presidency to a democratic appointed vp.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2509 "2020-10-17T10:12:43Z")

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It’s clear the post has an entire dump of Hunter’s iCloud.

> **[Text messages show raw and intimate exchange between Joe and Hunter Biden](https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/texts-show-raw-intimate-exchange-between-joe-and-hunter-biden/)**
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> A raw series of text messages show Joe Biden offering fatherly comfort as his son, Hunter, lamented from a rehab facility about being a “f–ked up addict who can’t be trusted”…

Curious how much longer the rest of the media can keep ignoring this, especially with other people in the email chains confirming them.

> **[Source on alleged Hunter Biden email chain verifies message about Chinese...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies)**
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> One of the people on an explosive email thread involving Hunter Biden has verified the veracity of the messages, which purportedly outlines a pay out for former Vice President Joe Biden as part of a deal with a Chinese energy firm.

CBS finally asked Biden about it and of course he blew up. It’s stunning to me that most of the MSM refuses to even mention it.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2510 "2020-10-18T23:01:13Z")

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I can only imagine what’s coming in the next couple weeks on this…

People seem to forget that if you’ve been following this story each of these incremental revelations only serve to re-inforce everything that preceeded it. none of this is new, it’s just confirmation.

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**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2511 "2020-10-19T01:09:55Z")

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Pizzagate, pt. 2

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2512 "2020-10-23T02:51:41Z")

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I am looking forward to hearing from my wife about our Canadian friends less passive and more aggressive commentary on Facebook about our furor Trumps debate performance.

Must be a soft spot for crack smokers in the political environment.

I will be voting early to offset my in-laws as it seems.

I need help offset the rest of the fam. Anyone have 6-10 people i can borrow to offset the rest?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2513 "2020-10-30T00:55:40Z")

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> [@Onyx\_Z32](#):
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> Guy doesn’t like Trump and is an anarchist. Youtube pulled his channel but someone archived all his videos just before. Nothing about white supremacy. Loves him some guns though and definitely hates Whitmer.

More:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/8/484ba1d09559f96d4c8552a3872355c2b2cdf486.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2514 "2020-11-02T01:31:09Z")

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Who’s excited for this week?!

It’s going to be a shit show lol

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2515 "2020-11-02T03:00:19Z")

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obviously im hopeful but i would certainly like for this all to be over so that we can move on with the next 4 years or so.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2516 "2020-11-02T14:25:51Z")

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I drove through several towns in NY yesterday and there were many Trump car parades. Long lines of Trump flags & floats all over the place.

In Plattsburgh there were 50+ trump supporters on side of a main road, and literally only 2 Biden supporters. Some guy was dressed as Gene Simmons with MAGA gear, lol.

My Canadian wife thinks all of this is incredible since politics is so passive up there.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2517 "2020-11-02T14:50:48Z")

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I’m not a big believer in the whole, “look at all these people showing up at rallies, Trump is gonna win” theories. The Buffalo Bills fill that stadium every Sunday (before Covid) but it doesn’t mean everyone in WNY loves football. Rabid fans is the not the same as widespread support.

That said, I have a gut feeling Trump wins despite the polls. I think the last 2 years of cancel culture where expressing support for the president puts your family, property and career at risk have broken polling beyond repair.

I’m nervous but cautiously optimistic. I’d be less nervous if I honestly thought Biden had a chance in hell of serving a 4 year term. He’s definitely not my guy, but he’s not a fringe candidate by any measure. Harris however is a radical by every definition and in all likelihood if Biden wins we’ll be looking at 3 years of “President Harris” at a minimum.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2518 "2020-11-02T16:07:44Z")

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I think with all the violence and cancel culture bullshit, the real trump voters are not as vocal in their support, but when they come out to vote it’s a done deal. What happens when you show your support for trump…you know, our current PRESIDENT? You get shunned by family, you get harassed by friends and co-workers, you GET SHOT IN THE CHEST, you get chased through public places.

So idk, it felt good to check that box as a FUCK YOU to all the retards who act like cunt rags when you mention that you DON’T want Biden.

That’s where I think we’ll see a big turnout, the shamed Trump supporters.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2519 "2020-11-02T23:43:25Z")

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It’s refreshing to see civil discussion in here. I can’t post anything on facebook or face the consequences lol.

Just a thought here, maybe one of you gents has the answer…

Supposedly there have already been INSANE numbers of early voters and mail in ballots. I don’t doubt this at all, as I voted early myself and the line was quite long. My question is this, Wouldn’t they (the people that count the votes or whatever) already know which candidate is leading or is all of that information encrypted and not available until November 3rd? And if this info is somehow available AND, Joe Biden was winning, don’t you think they would announce that on every news outlet out there?

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/2520 "2020-11-03T00:33:02Z")

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I had wondered that too, and it appears early and mail in votes aren’t tallied until Election Day (generally)

> **[How does early voting work in the US election?](https://apnews.com/article/how-does-early-voting-work-explained-cdeb4636adb2cbbe2be36d6441c7603e)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — WHAT STATES VOTE EARLY, AND WHEN ARE THOSE VOTES COUNTED? All states allow some form of early voting, be it by casting votes in person at polling places, voting by mail, or...

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