# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/541 "2017-03-07T11:52:24Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > Obama claims Trump colluded with Russia to win election with no evidence, media tears into Trump and does everything in their power to decimate his campaign. > > Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping his phones while campaigning for presidency, media proceeds to discredit him based on no evidence presented to them. > > This tells me all I need to know about the status of the media today. [paulo]_PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE. WHAT’S HAPPENING TODAY IS ALL THAT MATTERS!_[/paulo] ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/542 "2017-03-07T11:59:20Z")
Hahaha I don’t need to link shit, Obama claimed that Trump was aided by Russia to win the election. They still think that and it’s crazy because it just shows how out of touch they are right now. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/543 "2017-03-07T12:02:44Z")
what Russia did was to aid Trump… but that’s a different claim than you made before. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/544 "2017-03-07T12:09:18Z")
So Trump may not have colluded with Russia, but it worked the other way around. The Dems are trying to prove that Trump colluded with Russia, hence their witchhunt for ties to Russia with all of his cabinet picks. That better? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/545 "2017-03-07T12:17:08Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > I just wanted to come in here to state that Bill Maher is a condescending piece of shit and his show sucks. He has to be taken seriously until he is proved wrong, then hes “just a comedian”. Same shit jon oliver, john stewart, and all of those guys pull. Maher is just more of a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/546 "2017-03-07T12:23:39Z")
@**[Paulo](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=502)** RE: Russia Their economy is shit and a country’s economy is more important than its military prowess in terms of global influence. Their GDP per capita is lower than Greece which is essentially a failed state. (source: [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html](https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html)) There is not only a growing gap between the upper and lower classes (read: eroding middle class) in terms of people and families but also in nation states. The gap is going to get larger. Russia is not improving. Their economic dependence on a couple commodity prices makes them easy targets for economic suppression which is tantamount to military suppression. However, the Art of War teaches that you should always give your opponent a way out so that they don’t have to fight to the death. I’d say Russia is pretty much a sitting duck throwing a decades long tantrum and the US should just keep them there. It doesn’t really matter what their intentions are. They have limited capabilities to drive their agenda. The fact that the MSM is making it seem like Russia has all of this power and influence is giving way too much credit to those guys. It should stop. > [@Beck](#): > > I just wanted to come in here to state that Bill Maher is a condescending piece of shit and his show sucks. I like Bill Maher though i can see why some lean your way. I don’t like how he is too theatrical about iffy intelligence and is a little too left leaning for my liking but he is much more moderate than the leftiest on the left. He has admitted the far left are idiots that are hurting their greater cause. He’s also trying to have more right-leaning guests on his show and he almost allows them a decent shot… though they are each overwhelmed and outnumbered by the left-leaning panelists and the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/547 "2017-03-07T13:17:53Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > what Russia did was to aid Trump… but that’s a different claim than you made before. you say that like there is proof? Did someone find proof? - - - Updated - - - > [@theblue](#): > > show me where Obama claimed Collusion? You can’t just link two different claims together. Obama and many have said Russia was involved with the election and wanting Trump to win, and that Trump and associates have communicated with Russia, but you need to link the two for your claim. During the election, trump said he thinks the election is rigged like what happened to Bernie… once he said that, all the news outlets started saying how the election can’t be rigged, that its protected and not possible… Now trump is president and all they talk about is Russia rigging/aiding trump in the election… ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/548 "2017-03-07T13:47:06Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > [paulo]_PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE. WHAT’S HAPPENING TODAY IS ALL THAT MATTERS!_[/paulo] :biglol: lol Don’t get me started. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/549 "2017-03-07T14:21:03Z")
This [#Vault7](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Vault7) stuff is incredible. I mean, we all already knew it, but having the hard documents lends credence. What a funky time we live in. I wonder if say 5-10 years from now it will even be possible to discern with certainly any electronic evidence of any kind; its origin and authenticity. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/550 "2017-03-08T05:15:36Z")
> [@bing](#): > > This [#Vault7](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Vault7) stuff is incredible. I mean, we all already knew it, but having the hard documents lends credence. > > What a funky time we live in. I wonder if say 5-10 years from now it will even be possible to discern with certainly any electronic evidence of any kind; its origin and authenticity. The stuff that came out of the NSA leaks was cooler since NSA does signals intel vs CIA doing human intel. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/551 "2017-03-08T09:01:56Z")
> [@Wahoo](#): > > During the election, trump said he thinks the election is rigged like what happened to Bernie… once he said that, all the news outlets started saying how the election can’t be rigged, that its protected and not possible… > > Now trump is president and all they talk about is Russia rigging/aiding trump in the election… the claim was that rigging at the polls was not happening, so totally different. nobody is saying russia hacked polling machines ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/552 "2017-03-15T14:12:04Z")
So Trump lied about being wiretapped and even the Republicans in Congress are admitting it. At this point it might be easier to just let us know when he tells the truth about something. Particularly in the middle of the night on twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/553 "2017-03-16T06:25:23Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > So Trump lied about being wiretapped and even the Republicans in Congress are admitting it. At this point it might be easier to just let us know when he tells the truth about something. Particularly in the middle of the night on twitter. [sarcasm]Those main stream republican senators are fake news![/sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/554 "2017-03-16T06:50:04Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > So Trump lied about being wiretapped and even the Republicans in Congress are admitting it. At this point it might be easier to just let us know when he tells the truth about something. Particularly in the middle of the night on twitter. If he is lying then he is taking it pretty far as he just last night said that evidence is being submitted to the house intelligence committee. [MORNING BRIEF: Trump tells 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' he will submit wiretapping evidence 'very soon' | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/16/morning-brief-trump-tells-tucker-carlson-tonight-will-submit-wiretapping-evidence-very-soon.html) ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/555 "2017-03-16T08:00:19Z")
I’m sure he didn’t pay his taxes either… Edit towards liberals. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/556 "2017-03-16T12:28:08Z")
on a serious note with the taxes. does anybody not think Trump (or his people) leaked this on purpose. it’s an excellent play. One year, just enough to look good, all the meat missing. It’s too perfect. I got nothing, it was an epic move and played out perfectly in the media. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/557 "2017-03-16T12:49:34Z")
I think the 2 page release came from someone in his camp. The client copy could have only come from him, his family, or his accountants. Not a coincidence that it happened right in the middle of the CBO tearing Trumpcare to shreds, Muslim ban 2.0 losing in the courts, and the fake ‘wire tapp’. Not surprising that he’s continuing to insist on it. He never backtracks. If every government official who was involved testifies that there is zero evidence that Obama tapped Trump, Trump still won’t admit that he just made up the claim off the top of his head. He will just continue to maintain that he was right, say something about privileged info unavailable to the public, and move on to the next big lie. How many times did he say Mexico is paying for his wall? He just requested $4 billion for it in his budget. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/558 "2017-03-17T20:54:25Z")
Welp… Canada is going to have a hell of a time with this with our Liberal Govt’s policies on immigration being what they are: More Mexican immigrants detained at CDN border through March 8, 2017 than through the full calendar years in each of the 3 years prior. > **[Exclusive: Canadian border authorities detaining record number of...](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-immigration-mexicans-exclusive-idUSKBN16O2W3)** > > Canada's border authorities detained more Mexicans in the first 67 days of 2017 than they did annually in any of the three previous years, according to statistics obtained by Reuters. It’s strange that we’ll let them in but wont let htem work (which i agree with i guess) but might as well send them home or turn them away. If they cant work they cant live. Canada is VERY stingy on work permits. I can attest to that first hand. This will be an interesting one to follow ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/559 "2017-03-18T15:31:31Z")
Trump 1, G20 0 > **[Trump 1, free trade 0: G20 drops pledge to fight protectionism](http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/18/news/economy/g20-trade-protectionism-trump-germany/index.html)** > > The G20 group of top economies have dropped their long-standing commitment to fight all forms of trade protectionism. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/560 "2017-03-20T16:23:02Z")
Comey 1, Trump 0. > **[President Trump faces his hardest truth: He was wrong](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-faces-his-hardest-truth-he-was-wrong/2017/03/20/af9cabfc-0d83-11e7-9b0d-d27c98455440_story.html?utm_term=.a162a9d07d50&noredirect=on)** > > FBI director’s testimony on wiretapping and Russia probe puts the White House on the defensive. Although Comey may have gotten him in in the first place with his nonsense about Weiner’s laptop the week of the election, so I guess it’s Comey 1, Trump 1 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=29)