# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/621 "2017-03-23T06:08:08Z")

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Every tax in Erie County is used in some way to pay for Medicaid. That 25% the county has to kick up to the state came out to around 205 million in 2016 on a budget of 1.3 billion. So almost 20% of Erie County’s entire budget gets sucked up before the county can allocate a penny to things in the county.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/622 "2017-03-23T06:29:48Z")

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Good info, @JayS. :tup:

Focusing solely on that issue; If this passes, will it mean an immediate positive effect for Erie county? Or do they just make up the loss in tax revenue by screwing us on state level taxes? I can see them fighting to keep the Cadillac plan by getting funding from other places.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/623 "2017-03-23T07:24:48Z")

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According to Jays link NY pays more than 100 times more than Wyoming. Just sayin. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/624 "2017-03-23T07:39:21Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> Good info, @**[JayS](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=661)**. :tup:
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> Focusing solely on that issue; If this passes, will it mean an immediate positive effect for Erie county? Or do they just make up the loss in tax revenue by screwing us on state level taxes? I can see them fighting to keep the Cadillac plan by getting funding from other places.

You can’t really say for sure. Obviously NY at a state level is going to want to keep their Caddy, it keeps the liberal downstaters happy. Paying for it gets MUCH harder though when they can’t just mandate it at the county level.

What will the county do with a huge tax surplus? Ideally they’d refund it to the taxpayers but who knows. I will say if there wasn’t immediate and significant property tax cuts county wide you’ll see a massive turnover in county government next election. For decades republican and democrat county officials have blamed high property taxes on the Medicaid mandate, rightfully so, making it political suicide to lose that mandate and not reduce taxes.

If this passes with the Chris Collins amendment intact I’m going to nominate him as Upstate God Emperor. Even if the entire rest of the bill is terrible this one little paragraph will be a huge win for anyone in NY outside of NYC.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/625 "2017-03-23T07:43:56Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> … Upstate God Emperor…

Cue the meme machinery.

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**Author:** ![Josh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Josh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Josh)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/626 "2017-03-23T08:00:30Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Every tax in Erie County is used in some way to pay for Medicaid. That 25% the county has to kick up to the state came out to around 205 million in 2016 on a budget of 1.3 billion. So almost 20% of Erie County’s entire budget gets sucked up before the county can allocate a penny to things in the county.

Great info. The six figures of NYS tax I’m paying this year feels even worse now 😉

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/627 "2017-03-23T08:09:46Z")

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As good as that one paragraph may be for us locally, I’d still be surprised if this passes. It’s getting torn apart on both sides of the aisle.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/628 "2017-03-23T08:37:42Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> As good as that one paragraph may be for us locally, I’d still be surprised if this passes. It’s getting torn apart on both sides of the aisle.

It will pass in some form, I just hope the Collins paragraph survives.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/629 "2017-03-23T08:51:22Z")

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> [@Josh](#):
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> Great info. The six figures of NYS tax I’m paying this year feels even worse now 😉

Thankfully you don’t get taxed in NY every time you make a reference to your income on forum posts.

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**Author:** ![Josh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Josh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Josh)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/630 "2017-03-23T08:55:36Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Thankfully you don’t get taxed in NY every time you make a reference to your income on forum posts.

siq burn bro, is your butt hurt from how poor you are?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/631 "2017-03-23T08:58:19Z")

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> [@Josh](#):
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> siq burn bro, is your butt hurt from how poor you are?

It wasn’t a burn or even an attempt at one. A couple other people here and my self were truly curious why every post you make has some reference about your income.

Congrats you’re doing well :tup:

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**Author:** ![Josh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Josh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Josh)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/632 "2017-03-23T09:00:20Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> It wasn’t a burn or even an attempt at one. A couple other people here and my self were trying to figure out why every post you make has some reference about income. :lol:

Thread talking about taxes and potential to lower them, I’d greatly appreciate that because I pay a lot of them and they get wildly misused. Does that make more sense for you now?

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**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/633 "2017-03-23T09:12:39Z")

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Hahahahaha this thread just got so much better.  
@LZ1 why are you so poor? Must be all the gm parts you’ve “had to” replace!

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/634 "2017-03-23T09:19:11Z")

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> [@BOBBYGRV](#):
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> Hahahahaha this thread just got so much better.  
> @**[LZ](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=95)** why are you so poor? Must be all the gm parts you’ve “had to” replace!

I’m getting a 2nd job as a walmart greeter shits looking up yo

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/635 "2017-03-23T10:40:49Z")

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Well this took a turn. Listen, it doesn’t matter if you make mega Becks like Josh and need to mention it in several threads or McDonalds cashier money like LZ with his budget turbo Vette and Mustang builds… getting Medicaid funding moved to the state level is a great thing. 🙂

So how about Nunes basically confirming a lot of Trump’s claims about being spied on? I really don’t care that it was “incidental”, if you’re spying on people myself and my staff are speaking with and then spreading the contents of those conversations around while revealing my and my staff’s identities that pretty well fits the definition of “spying on me”.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/636 "2017-03-23T12:51:54Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> mega Becks

i’ve really missed this reference in my every day life.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/637 "2017-03-23T13:24:37Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> i’ve really missed this reference in my every day life.

They’re Josh’s for future reference now.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/638 "2017-03-23T14:45:20Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> They’re Josh’s for future reference now.

What is the Becks to Joshs exchange rate? Like 1 Beck = .5 Josh since he seems at least twice as baller as Beck since Beck only rocks VW’s. Sorry Beck, I rock a veedub too.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/639 "2017-03-23T17:42:26Z")

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If it is 6 figures in NYS income tax, that is pretty baller but if it is 6 figures in total NY taxes… meh.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/640 "2017-03-23T20:06:40Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> What is the Becks to Joshs exchange rate? Like 1 Beck = .5 Josh since he seems at least twice as baller as Beck since Beck only rocks VW’s. Sorry Beck, I rock a veedub too.

yeah but we’re also talking Beck(2010) which, when adjusted for inflation and promotions likely represents about 1.5(Beck(2017))

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