# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/661 "2017-03-25T08:41:55Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Art of the deal bro. Ask for way more than you’re willing to take, build high expectations. But gotta be prepared to walk away and actually follow though. He should probably write a book about this so more people could understand him.

Yeah, bro. Read that in middle school. That game isn’t likely to play as well at this level.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/662 "2017-03-25T08:51:04Z")

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I’m fairly entertained with the current outcome democrats jumping up and down in excitement over the bill not passing and taking credit.

Mean while ACA isn’t doing well and as more insurance companies pull out…So if it does ultimately fail they have nobody else to blame at that point seems like a fine idea for a short term victory but long term wasn’t the best idea.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/663 "2017-03-26T09:09:07Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> I’m fairly entertained with the current outcome democrats jumping up and down in excitement over the bill not passing and taking credit.
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> Mean while ACA isn’t doing well and as more insurance companies pull out…So if it does ultimately fail they have nobody else to blame at that point seems like a fine idea for a short term victory but long term wasn’t the best idea.

It’s actually in everyone’s best interests to work with republicans on it.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/664 "2017-03-26T09:20:13Z")

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cbc news piece today that could be attributed to the weakness of the single-payer system: [http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/eric-nolting-shannon-nolting-1.4036131](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/eric-nolting-shannon-nolting-1.4036131)

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/665 "2017-03-30T20:07:18Z")

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Flynn wants immunity in exchange for his testimony.

> Flynn, [who was ousted from his post in February](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/13/michael-flynn-resigns-quits-trump-national-security-adviser-russia)for misleading the White House about discussions he held with the Russian ambassador to the US, released a statement on Thursday through his lawyer declaring that he had a story to tell – but was first seeking “assurances against unfair prosecution”.

> **[Mike Flynn indicates he would testify in Trump-Russia inquiry in exchange for...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/30/michael-flynn-trump-russia-investigation-testify-immunity)**
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> Ousted for misleading White House about discussions with Russian ambassador, ex-national security adviser may have offered to testify before FBI and Congress

I love the clip in there. In his own words: “When you are given immunity, that means you have probably committed a crime.”

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/666 "2017-03-31T06:35:11Z")

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Cool, let’s wait and see what it’s all about :tup:

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/667 "2017-03-31T06:49:03Z")

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For sure. This is big news, but there’s nothing damning about Trump until we hear his testimony.

Don’t worry, Trump is already getting his fake news card ready. :picard:

> [@realDonaldTrump](#):
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> Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/668 "2017-03-31T07:10:46Z")

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Big news? The guy hasn’t even testified yet, lol. Unless you only care about confirmation bias 😉

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/669 "2017-03-31T07:22:17Z")

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Paulo reminds me of that “This is definitely the end of Trump, says increasingly nervous man for 20th time” meme.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/670 "2017-03-31T07:36:15Z")

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The former National Security Adviser to the President of the United States who was forced to resign due to his ties with Russia is asking for immunity for his testimony, and this isn’t big news to you? Partisan blinders? I’m not accusing your precious leader of anything guys. Relax.

Just go back to your [safe space.](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?284081-Trump-Thread-(45th-President-of-the-USA))

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/671 "2017-03-31T07:41:21Z")

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With the hyper partisan BS going on I don’t blame anyone for asking for immunity before testifying. But don’t worry, maybe this 20th time will be the big one. :lol:

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/672 "2017-03-31T07:42:12Z")

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Well let’s think about this. Is it more likely that Flynn’s testimony is:

a) Flynn coming out with testimony that Drumph is literally a Russian Manchurian Candidate  
b) Flynn coming out to defend his reputation which has been shit on in the media

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/673 "2017-03-31T07:42:56Z")

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@**[JayS](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=661)** I hope it’s not ‘the big one.’ I hope ‘the big one’ never comes. No reasonable person wants to see the current state of our politics. It sucks for everyone.  
@**[Onyx Z32](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=30)** or c) he committed a crime and wants other people to go down instead of him. (Not Donald, but there are obviously other parties involved here.) His own words point to that option.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/674 "2017-03-31T07:51:10Z")

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Ok, well then what crime do you think Flynn is looking for immunity from?

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/675 "2017-03-31T08:01:22Z")

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He’s probably trying to make sure he isn’t tried for treason. Which is absolutely the right move since he probably wasn’t committed to harming the country but any prosecutor worth his law degree will twist his actions into looking like he was.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/676 "2017-03-31T08:06:03Z")

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What do you think he did that was treasonous?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/677 "2017-03-31T08:07:46Z")

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I’m sure there were a lot of people in Salem in the late 1600’s that would have taken an immunity offer even if they weren’t witches if they had the chance…

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/678 "2017-03-31T08:14:46Z")

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When did I say I thought he did something treasonous? I’m applying his own logic in that he probably committed a crime.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/679 "2017-03-31T08:36:37Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> When did I say I thought he did something treasonous?

> [@Paulo](#):
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> He’s probably trying to make sure he isn’t tried for treason.

![http://www.nyspeed.com/pictures/treason.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/6/86a1b082c7c874a69091b0e6f65d9bb4789b046c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/680 "2017-03-31T08:40:06Z")

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Josh, are you kidding?

I guess the court system is a big waste of time then. Why put people through trial for anything? With that logic, if they are being tried, they are automatically guilty.

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