# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1161 "2017-08-14T10:20:14Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Extremist can be assumed when someone blows themselves up. No? Sure. That’s why my comment was ‘this sentence alone’. Or I could have said ‘out of context’. It just sounds fucked up when you don’t specify with that the way you clearly do with nazi and fascist. Nazis and fascists are inherently awful. Not so when you say Muslim. - - - Updated - - - > [@boardjnky4](#): > > Islamic and Muslim are one-in-the-same. > > From [quora.com](http://quora.com): > > **Islam is the act of submitting to the will of God whereas a Muslim is person who participates in the act of submission.** I’m aware. You missed what I was saying… See comment above. - - - Updated - - - @bing - stuff like [this](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlotteville-photo-student-peter-cvjetanovic-not-angry-racist-white-nationalists-uva-university-of-a7891791.html)? I do feel bad in those cases. It goes with the old quote ‘I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.’ The media singling him out shouldn’t have such negative impact to his personal life, but this isn’t much different than Trump singling people out and his supporters threatening them. No one should have to go through that for their political beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1162 "2017-08-14T10:33:45Z")
The media sure is having a field day with the fact that Trump hasn’t strongly condemned one side of a two sided fight yet and instead condemned violence by either side. Remember when the media went after Obama the same way when he didn’t strongly condemn BLM after those cops got shot? But when oh when will Trump disavow white supremacy? [https://youtu.be/CuwFa0c-GnM](https://youtu.be/CuwFa0c-GnM) I remember back when I was in college some white power group had a march here in Buffalo and people were all pissed off. Instead of going down there and starting a riot though they let them have their march because the great thing about the 1st Amendment is people have the right to say terrible shit you don’t agree with. The came, they did their march, and it was over. They got very little coverage and it was no big deal. Now the counter protests show up with pepper spray and we end up with states of emergency and dead people. Also, can the media please stop saying 3 people are dead because of this alt-right demonstration? 2 of those were cops that died when they crashed a police helicopter. Unless someone from the alt-right is found to have shot it down that’s hardly their fault. 3 dead makes a better [#fakenews](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=fakenews) headline than 1 dead I guess. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1163 "2017-08-14T10:44:18Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > - > - > - Updated - - - > @**[bing](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=174)** - stuff like [this](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlotteville-photo-student-peter-cvjetanovic-not-angry-racist-white-nationalists-uva-university-of-a7891791.html)? yes exactly that. if this costs him a whole bunch i wonder if the media will be libel since they are largely the ones framing how people are interpreting what happened. but then again, he did make the conscious decision to participate in that march. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1164 "2017-08-14T10:50:04Z")
> [@bing](#): > > yes exactly that. > > if this costs him a whole bunch i wonder if the media will be libel since they are largely the ones framing how people are interpreting what happened. but then again, he did make the conscious decision to participate in that march. True. It probably depends on what is being said. You can’t sue the media for simply having your picture up or even just stating what group you’re part of. When you’re out in public there is no reasonable assumption of privacy to fall back on. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1165 "2017-08-14T12:05:09Z")
yah its going down in full force now: > **[Charlottesville White Supremacists Begin to Lose Jobs, Web Hosting Platforms](https://jezebel.com/charlottesville-white-supremacists-begin-to-lose-jobs-1797818337)** > > The doxxing of white supremacists who rallied to protect a statue of a loser general continues, to their shock. In turn, some of them are beginning to see consequences. lots of people actively trying to out/dox all these dudes. I can’t figure how they get around any of this to be honest. doxxing will likely be quite effective. - - - Updated - - - le more… [https://www.gomn.com/news/family-rejects-man-outed-as-nazi-at-charlottesville-rally](https://www.gomn.com/news/family-rejects-man-outed-as-nazi-at-charlottesville-rally) ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1166 "2017-08-14T12:14:27Z")
Free speech has consequences. Act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1167 "2017-08-14T12:22:01Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Free speech has consequences. Act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. It’s funny when Anonymous doxs people but then has a melt down when it happens to them… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1168 "2017-08-14T12:31:06Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Free speech has consequences. Act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. ^ This. If you show up at one of these things, for either side, don’t be surprised when there are consequences back in your day to day life. It’s getting to the point where posts here will probably one day get you blocked from future employment. Guess it’s time to change my name from JayS to something more anonymous. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1169 "2017-08-14T12:32:18Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Guess it’s time to change my name from JayS to something more anonymous. @ImWithHer is available. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1170 "2017-08-14T12:33:11Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > It’s getting to the point where posts here will probably one day get you blocked from future employment. pretty sure this is one reason why many people don’t do anything online at all. i figure i’m already in this deep… plus anything conservative i type now could be counter-balanced by all the liberal stuff i used to post 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1171 "2017-08-14T19:26:27Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > @ImWithHer is available. I could see him more going with @billclintonsarapist ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1172 "2017-08-15T08:21:30Z")
doxxing the white guys at the rally is now front page of CBC news: > **[Social media posts aim to expose white nationalists | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/yes-youre-racist-social-doxing-1.4247540)** > > A Twitter account dedicated to calling out racism is identifying people who attended the weekend rally in Charlottesville, Va. — using photos culled from the news and social media and listing their places of employment and other information. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1173 "2017-08-15T10:29:21Z")
> [@Wahoo](#): > > The charger was the general Lee. > > But some today could still say the charger is used as an instrument of racism as well since it’s a police vehicle From a couple years ago… [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/f/cf902d1920dbe7e00b754de0caef3b6ac6c53014.jpeg "Bubba Watson To Give General Lee a Makeover | GOLF.com") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGXYx7J72I) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1174 "2017-08-15T12:08:39Z")
> **[Show your support for Mike Pence](http://www.officialmikepence.com/)** > > Mike Pence is the 46th President of the United States of America. this will probably switch back soon but man… nice work whoever hacked Pence’s site. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1175 "2017-08-15T12:27:49Z")
> [@bing](#): > > [http://www.officialmikepence.com/](http://www.officialmikepence.com/) > > this will probably switch back soon but man… nice work whoever hacked Pence’s site. holy crap some of that brilliant I need to get me some mouth corner ointment EDIT: That’s not his actual website. It’s not advertised as the official website for him on any official page that I’ve seen. [http://mikepence.com](http://mikepence.com) is listed on one of this facebook pages, but that re-directs to [http://donaldjtrump.com](http://donaldjtrump.com) . Twitter lists [http://donaldjtrump.com](http://donaldjtrump.com) as his website. His Vice President page on facebook just lists [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov) Lastly, that content has been up there for several days, so if that was his official site, it definitely wouldn’t have lasted that long. Good lesson in domain purchasing. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1176 "2017-08-15T12:32:06Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > holy crap some of that brilliant > > I need to get me some mouth corner ointment yeah, its getting slow to navigate but that is some epic trolling ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1177 "2017-08-15T13:56:03Z")
That website is pure gold. haha. On another note, this just happened. > **[Trump again blames all sides for Virginia violence in bizarre, chaotic news...](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-not-all-of-those-people-at-virginia-rally-were-white-supremacists.html)** > > President Donald Trump adamantly defended his response to the deadly white nationalist rally in Virginia in a chaotic news conference. I chose to only watch the video and not read the article. He’s not handling this issue in a very unifying way. What’s so hard about condemning the terrorist act and that his motives were completely misguided? Why isn’t he distancing himself from these people? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1178 "2017-08-15T18:07:53Z")
He isn’t distancing himself from the right and alt-right because that’s who put him in to office. I think what people on the left should be worried about is that what if all of this brings out even MORE people from the right and get gets even more votes next time around. I don’t think Trump is a unifying character and this current political climate is near insanity. The media is making it worse and maybe even driving much of it. I also read that there are 9 conservative marches planned this coming weekend targeting google campuses across the country in response to firing the dude over the memo. Can you imagine this happens 9 more times this weekend??? Holy F. I think no matter what side you’re on you gotta be a little worried. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1179 "2017-08-15T18:21:48Z")
9 conservative marches is fine. 9 marches with nazi flags and white power salutes is not. No matter which is it though the media will find a way to cover as the latter. - - - Updated - - - Tried to google it and did find their official site: [http://www.marchongoogle.com/](http://www.marchongoogle.com/) Despite that sounding exactly nothing like nazis, white supremacy or alt-right that’s what basically every other search result returned. Of course I was searching with google. Interestingly, in a sick feeling at the bottom of your stomach kind of way, the Bing search results seem far less biased. Is google leaning on the algorithm a bit since this hits so close to home? Try searching “march on google” on various search engines and let me know what you think. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1180 "2017-08-16T05:13:47Z")
What are your thoughts on Trump actually defending the white supremacists and neo-nazis during the press conference yesterday? And trying to draw a moral equivalency between them and the counter protesters? Am I misunderstanding his own statements? Forget what the media is saying for 10 seconds and just focus on what the man himself said. Not to mention comparing George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to Robert E Lee… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=58) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=60)