# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1341 "2017-09-25T08:39:27Z")
I was at the game yesterday. There was massive booing during the anthem. Quite the contrast to the WWII hero they brought out during an intermission and the Air Force crew. Those guys all got standing ovations from everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1342 "2017-09-25T08:43:22Z")
Yikes. Lost some respect for Tomlin just now. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1343 "2017-09-25T09:46:09Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Yikes. Lost some respect for Tomlin just now. Maybe they’ll fire him and bring in their backup copy? ![https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6eq2HIIMAAt9oY.jpg:large](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/e/ce70c4e0810ccd56893dd9150bd449163ad61728.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1344 "2017-09-25T10:15:43Z")
Haha. Definitely had to look back and forth a few times on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1345 "2017-09-25T11:45:50Z")
Here’s what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:The National [Anthem](http://fortune.com/fortune500/anthem/) must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses. - - - Updated - - - I found that on the internet so it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1346 "2017-09-25T12:32:32Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I found that on the internet so it’s almost certainly bullshit ^ Fixed it for ya… > **[What the NFL policy book says about the national anthem](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/09/25/what-nfl-rule-book-actually-says-national-anthem/699886001/)** > > You might have seen a meme going around "quoting" the NFL rule book on the national anthem. Here's what's true. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1347 "2017-09-25T12:51:34Z")
From your link… "So, is it true? Technically, yes. But it’s not in the “NFL rule book.” " ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1348 "2017-09-25T12:55:42Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > From your link… > "So, is it true? > Technically, yes. But it’s not in the “NFL rule book.” " Even the game operations manual only says that they have to be on the sideline for the anthem. It doesn’t say anything about standing, kneeling or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1349 "2017-09-25T13:00:12Z")
“should stand at attention” ---
**Author:** ![nermoria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9e5f3/32.png) [@nermoria](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nermoria)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1350 "2017-09-25T17:59:34Z")
Don’t players get fined at times for “expressing” themselves in the end zone? ie dancing . At the end of the day whether it’s Hollywood stars or Football stars, they are there to entertain and nothing more. Pretending that the opinions of aforementioned characters matter, and that they can be role models for anything but work ethic, is a joke. They should stick to what the customer wants and that is entertainment. The amount of politics in Movies and Sports is a huge turnoff. How representative is HBO’s “Ballers” of Football in real life? Honest question, I’m curious. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1351 "2017-09-25T20:02:07Z")
Just play your throwing ball sport and shut the fuck up. We didn’t elect you to express your opinions, you weren’t drafted to bring light to anything. You were hired to play bouncy helmet, so fucking play it and shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1352 "2017-09-26T12:48:25Z")
LMAO! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1353 "2017-09-27T01:01:42Z")
yo i think this is where to talk about immigraton on here right? there was some really tremendous journalism by CBC The National on some of these refugees and a US border guard today: > **[Canada's busiest illegal border crossing | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/canada-s-busiest-illegal-border-crossing-1.4308726)** > > Roxham Road is the busiest illegal crossing into Canada. It's a one way-route out of the U.S. that the Canadian government can't seem to plug. > **['This is an illegal crossing' RCMP tell asylum seekers | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/this-is-an-illegal-crossing-rcmp-tell-asylum-seekers-1.4308619)** > > At Canada's busiest illegal border crossing, RCMP officers warn asylum seekers they are breaking the law and > **[Guarding Canada-US illegal border crossings | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/guarding-canada-us-illegal-border-crossings-1.4308721)** > > U.S. border control officers are struggling to cope with the number of asylum seekers illegally crossing into Canada sometimes Canadian journalism steps its game up. you cannot help but have compassion for the mothers in these videos ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1354 "2017-09-27T06:03:35Z")
As I’ve said before, good luck with this Canada. I don’t see it ending well for your economy. ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1355 "2017-09-27T08:15:16Z")
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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1356 "2017-09-27T11:53:59Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > As I’ve said before, good luck with this Canada. I don’t see it ending well for your economy. it will be a challenge. I have had some meetings with immigration people and am going to actually try and help with this situation but there are so many moving pieces that putting effective programs together is nearly impossible. the easiest thing to do would be to sit back and be critical. i dont want to do that. but it is very interesting to see how effective Trump’s word are at getting done exactly what he set out to do. as i said though, if you watch those videos and the raw scenes as the people pull up to the border… you cannot help but have compassion for these people. maybe you dont want to and chose to not see what they are struggling with but it would not be any better to willfully ignore some realities here. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1357 "2017-09-27T12:07:58Z")
> [@bing](#): > > the easiest thing to do would be to sit back and be critical. i dont want to do that. Rock on, brother. :tup::tup::tup::tup: ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1358 "2017-09-27T12:35:03Z")
This post got all messed up with that “are you sure you want to leave this page” posting bug. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1359 "2017-09-27T16:41:34Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > As I’ve said before, good luck with this Canada. I don’t see it ending well for your economy. What happens when hundreds of thousands of poorly educated, low skilled individuals enter into a country and have access to a socialized healthcare? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1360 "2017-09-28T04:46:35Z")
What I see is a broken system that shouldn’t have brought them to the US on a temporary visa in the first place when it’s clear they had no intention of staying temporarily. It goes back to that gumball video I posted. The problems of the world can’t be fixed with immigration to countries that have less problems. There are simply far too many humans in terrible parts of the world to just move them to 1st world countries. I don’t have a clue how you start propping up the 3rd world but relocation definitely isn’t going to work. I was curious about these visa overstay people so I did a little digging. > **[629,000 Overstayed U.S. Visas Last Year, Homeland Security Says](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/us/homeland-security-foreigners-overstayed-visas.html)** > > The number is a tiny portion of the estimated 50 million visitors to the country, but the department says the breach presents a risk to national security. 629000 people overstayed their visa’s last year alone. _The highest rates of overstays were from countries outside the visa-waiver program. For example, 13 percent of the visitors from Afghanistan overstayed their visas, while nearly 11 percent of those from Iraq overstayed. The highest rates of overstays were from African countries. A quarter of all visitors from Burkina Faso and Djibouti overstayed their tourist or business visa._ ^ That’s broken. When 25% of all visitors from a country overstay it’s time to seriously rework who you’re giving those visas too. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=67) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=69)