# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1601 "2017-12-11T15:44:56Z")

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George Soros will pay those women whatever they want to bring Trump down.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1602 "2017-12-11T15:50:32Z")

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Sacrifice Franken to try and get Trump at some point all this SJW bullshit will backfire

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1603 "2017-12-11T17:23:05Z")

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At the end of the day, dems are maintaining some dignity and forcing these people to resign. That’s a bad thing now?

Then you have a republican senate candidate who:

- Was twice removed from the Supreme Court of Alabama
- Has multiple credible allegations of being a child molester
- Doesn’t think Muslims should be allowed to serve in the Senate
- Thinks homosexuality should be a crime
- Thinks that we shouldn’t have any of the amendments after the Bill of Rights (So slavery, women’s and black people’s suffrage, etc)

And despite all that, which is a clear example of someone who should not serve in the senate, the sitting president not only endorsed him but is campaigning for him.

But people are criticizing the democrats move on asking Franken and Conyers to resign? Fuck off with that.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1604 "2017-12-11T18:36:32Z")

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Honestly, i dont care what the Moore did, nor Trump. Not now.

this whole weaponized-identity-politics is the real predator and i hope the republicans fight it tooth and nail and win.

Also just saw this is happening tomorrow: [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364284-trump-to-sign-directive-to-send-americans-back-to-moon-eventually-to](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364284-trump-to-sign-directive-to-send-americans-back-to-moon-eventually-to)

Trump signing order that Americans are going back to the moon and Mars.

Honestly, this guy just keeps racking up the wins. It is truely something to watch.

I also cannot stand all of these losers criticizing him over bullshit and what might happen. This guy is just lining up promises his predecessors made and didnt follow through on and he’s making it look easy. i genuinely believe that the left is just trying to throw shade on this guy to dampen how impressive his work really is.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1605 "2017-12-11T19:17:25Z")

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If I didn’t know better, I’d think your post was over-complimentary to be ironic.

Please provide examples of the wins he’s ‘racking up.’

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1606 "2017-12-11T19:31:15Z")

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i guess we need to wait a few months for closure on this tax thing, i was just taking it as done.

i continue to be impressed with how he gives no fucks and just bulldozes through his agenda. I admire it.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1607 "2017-12-11T20:06:29Z")

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Well that’s why I’m asking. He isn’t bulldozing through anything or getting a lot done. He’s just acting like he is.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1608 "2017-12-11T20:57:01Z")

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i guess i just feel like we havent even seen the best of it yet.

i cant even believe the dude got to this point. there’s gotta be a series of events coming where even the leftest of the leftist will be all ‘whoa, dude’s a wizard’

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1609 "2017-12-12T04:49:59Z")

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Considering how highly you speak about Trump you should be able to rattle off accomplishments, but nothing immediately comes to mind? Do you think you might be buying into the right wing hype too much?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1610 "2017-12-12T04:57:20Z")

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Let’s see, how is Trump winning?

Tax bill on the cusp of passing.  
Crushing it on illegal immigration:

> **[Trump Administration Touts Border Arrests as Proof of Crackdown on Illegal...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/us/politics/border-arrests-immigration-homeland-security.html)**
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> A decrease in arrests at the border shows that the administration’s deterrence efforts are effective, Homeland Security officials said.

  
ISIS is falling apart, thanks mostly to Trump unleashing is Mad Dog Mattis:  

> **[Trump, Mattis turn military loose on ISIS, leaving terror caliphate in tatters](http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/08/trump-mattis-turn-military-loose-on-isis-leaving-terror-caliphate-in-tatters.html)**
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> Hundreds of ISIS fighters had just been chased out of a northern Syrian city and were fleeing through the desert in long convoys, presenting an easy target to U.S. A-10 warthogs.

  
How about that economy?  

> **[President Trump Claimed Business Enthusiasm Is at its 'Highest Level in...](http://fortune.com/2017/10/05/donald-trump-twitter-stock-market-economy/)**
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> How much credit does Trump deserve for economic growth?

  
Or the unemployment rate, and more importantly that critical labor force participation rate that Obama used to fake tout his unemployment rate as people just flat out gave up on getting a job so they didn’t count against the rate?  

> **[Trump says job market is getting non-workers working. Is it?](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/dec/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-job-market-getting-non-workers-w/)**
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> President Donald Trump took a victory lap on the job market during one of his periodic Cabinet meetings.

  
Travel Ban?  

> **[Supreme Court Allows Trump Travel Ban to Take Effect](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/us/politics/trump-travel-ban-supreme-court.html)**
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> The decision was a victory for the administration after its mixed success before the court over the summer, when justices considered and later dismissed disputes over the second version.

  
Recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli capital. I still don’t know if this is good or bad but he promised it during the campaign and just delivered, so it goes in the win column:  
Three words… Neil Fucking Gorsuch  
Speaking of judges, how about monumentally reshaping the courts to the conservative side?  

> **[Trump Is Rapidly Reshaping the Judiciary. Here’s How.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/us/politics/trump-judiciary-appeals-courts-conservatives.html)**
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> Republican lawyers and lawmakers are working together to install conservative judges on the influential federal appeals courts at a clip not seen in decades.

  
Got us out of the terrible Paris Climate Accord.  
Put the Keystone pipeline back on track.  
100’s of Obama era regulations… GONE:  

> **[Trump administration cancels hundreds of Obama-era regulations](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-administration-cancels-hundreds-of-obama-era-regulations/2017/07/20/55f501cc-6d68-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html?utm_term=.9a2e8ba4cb09&noredirect=on)**
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> The White House has frozen or withdrawn hundreds of planned rules, a move aimed at bolstering the economy but that scraps proposed protections for workers and the environment.

  
11k government jobs, SO LONG:  

> **[GOOD TRUMP: Trump Axes 11,000 Jobs In The Federal Government](https://www.dailywire.com/news/19426/good-trump-trump-axes-11000-jobs-federal-hank-berrien)**
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> Whatever promises President Trump made that he hasn’t kept as yet, there is one that he is definitely keeping; trimming the bureaucracy in Washington.

Still waiting on that wall though.  
[img][https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiNopfwwoTYAhVRMd8KHXbpCXMQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jehovahs-witness.com%2Ftopic%2F5664924128772096%2Ftrump-really-does-love-walls&psig=AOvVaw0LNvEDxyaYDffd9pY44f2P&ust=1513169784715293[/im]](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiNopfwwoTYAhVRMd8KHXbpCXMQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jehovahs-witness.com%2Ftopic%2F5664924128772096%2Ftrump-really-does-love-walls&psig=AOvVaw0LNvEDxyaYDffd9pY44f2P&ust=1513169784715293%5B/im%5D)

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Grrr… messed up the IMG tag and now I can’t edit it because of that forum bug.  
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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1611 "2017-12-12T06:58:22Z")

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That’s what I was looking for. Most of those are not his accomplishments, but it’s what I wanted to see. I’ll come back later to discuss.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1612 "2017-12-12T07:10:24Z")

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[sarcasm]can’t wait to see what the MSM has told you to think about it[/sarcasm]

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1613 "2017-12-12T07:24:22Z")

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Lol

I spoke with my accountant yesterday and he does think the tax plan not being able to write off property taxes and nys income tax is go8ng to hurt nys, and make people want to leave.

I know it won’t effect me negatively but wealthy people who create jobs are not going to like it, so jobs may end up leaving nys.

That’s his point of view which makes sense. If there’s less people paying the taxes they will have to raise them more to fill the deficit left by the people leaving.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1614 "2017-12-12T07:27:19Z")

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> [@Wahoo](#):
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> Lol
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> I spoke with my accountant yesterday and he does think the tax plan not being able to write off property taxes and nys income tax is go8ng to hurt nys, and make people want to leave.
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> I know it won’t effect me negatively but wealthy people who create jobs are not going to like it, so jobs may end up leaving nys.
> 
> That’s his point of view which makes sense. If there’s less people paying the taxes they will have to raise them more to fill the deficit left by the people leaving.

But you can still write off property tax upto 10k :lol:

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1615 "2017-12-12T07:29:27Z")

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we are not able to write off property tax up here.

and yeah i could have gone through the economic growth, immigration etc. but i didnt feel like going through it all. plus it was late

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1616 "2017-12-12T08:25:05Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> But you can still write off property tax upto 10k :lol:

Yeah it won’t effect me. At least not for years to come lol

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1617 "2017-12-12T08:38:53Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> [sarcasm]can’t wait to see what the MSM has told you to think about it[/sarcasm]

Says the guy that just used MSM links to cite his sources. :lol:

I wasn’t even planning to hate on your list but it sounds like you’re already triggered. Get Josh in here to feed you some Trump memes. That should help.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1618 "2017-12-12T09:50:27Z")

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Trust me dude, there’s nothing you can say that could trigger me because I put zero weight in anything you have to say.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1619 "2017-12-12T10:14:30Z")

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you guys dont need to get all catty… jeez.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1620 "2017-12-12T11:35:30Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Trust me dude, there’s nothing you can say that could trigger me because I put zero weight in anything you have to say.

Why do you bother posting at all if you can’t have sustained discussion? Let me guess, because you ‘luv trollin libtards hurr durr.’ You point at the ‘other side’ over and over and over calling them sheep, blind to the truth, blah blah blah. But then you put blatant hypocrisy on display by covering your ears whenever someone tries to even talk about this stuff in detail. You believe the bullshit that helps you feel better about who you support. You make excuses for the obvious downfalls. You ignore the massive red flags. You do all the things that you accuse other people of doing. You are the sheep that you hate, it’s just that your bullshit is coming from a different direction.

But hey, let’s derail the thread because you can’t stop yourself from being a prick yet again.

I’ve shown that I’m willing to have these conversations with anyone regardless of perspective, opinions, or political leanings. If you want get over yourself and join in, great. If not, and I mean this from the bottom of my maple syrup flavored heart, fuck you, have a Merry Christmas, and put me on your ignore list. 🙂

> [@bing](#):
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> you guys dont need to get all catty… jeez.

I thought it was light hearted since he hasn’t had an outburst in a while, but I was mistaken. I’m just trying to keep the conversation going so please do let me know if I’m actually being insulting to people. I don’t want to discourage opposing views from being put out on display.

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