# The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441 "2016-12-12T13:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1801 "2018-01-17T12:03:10Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > … the president should realize that individuals are to be assessed on their own merit regardless of race, ethnicity, creed, or birthplace… Yeah, that’s what you get with a merit-based immigration system which is what he wants. ![http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170802115728-trump-unveils-plan-to-curb-legal-immigration-sot-ath-00012130-full-169.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/f/2fbd133e5d0e55db98b64e5b15cf7e1e404833dd.jpeg) - - - Updated - - - If I didn’t know better, I’d think Paulo was quoting Sarah Sanders 🙂 [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf4jqMMxgh8) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1802 "2018-01-17T12:03:36Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Ignoring the point seems to be a common theme with Trump supporters. No one argues that these places are wonderful. There’s a reason why people are leaving them. > > However, the president should realize that individuals are to be assessed on their own merit regardless of race, ethnicity, creed, or birthplace. He doesn’t have an ounce of empathy for the people who are fighting to make a better life for themselves, just like your ancestors did, @**[bing](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=174)**. we’re not ignoring the point, we have different points. I am content with my point and not disagreeing though also not prioritizing your point. what you said about people being judged on their own merit is exactly what is going to happen based on what Trump is setting up for immigration. I also want to point out that i have strong US immigration counsel and I have a multi-year US visa and obtain them for my staff; legally. And by legally i mean that i took the time to understand US immigration paths available to me and went through the multi-year process to get it done. I passed all of the vetting and am now free to develop business or bring my family into the US, which i intend to do. what i DID NOT DO was simply slip across the border, subvert the laws in place and then demand to be treated any particular way. This is why i have limited empathy, but not zero. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1803 "2018-01-17T12:29:48Z")
**Gaslight** Obstruct Project Stop defending what he said. That’s the point. It has nothing to do with our ideological beliefs for immigration reform. He said something stupid that a president, no, a reasonable representative of the American people should not have said. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1804 "2018-01-17T12:33:32Z")
that’s an opinion though. i prefer tougher talk that forces people to confront difficult truths. i hope he says shithole about shitholes more often. it is now what i expect of all heads of state 🙂 \*edit… another indisputable win for Mr. Trump and all of America from the most liberal of corporations; APPLE > **[Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38 billion in foreign cash taxes](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-tax/apple-plans-second-u-s-campus-to-pay-38-billion-in-foreign-cash-taxes-idUSKBN1F62FJ)** > > Apple Inc will open a new campus as part of a five-year, $30 billion U.S. investment plan and will make about $38 billion in one-time tax payments on its overseas cash, one of the largest corporate spending plans announced since the passage of a tax... $30B investment in a new campus and $38B in a one-time tax charge for repatriating cash. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1805 "2018-01-17T12:37:01Z")
He didn’t just call countries shitholes, though. He said that he prefers immigrants from one country over another. Does that make sense as to why it was a retarded thing to say? If all he did was call a place a shithole that’s actually a shithole, I’d be defending it with you. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1806 "2018-01-17T12:43:57Z")
It should not surprise anyone at this point that Trump is going to say shit he probably shouldnt have. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1807 "2018-01-17T12:45:17Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > He didn’t just call countries shitholes, though. He said that he prefers immigrants from one country over another. Does that make sense as to why it was a retarded thing to say? Yeah, he specifically mentioned preferring Norway. This wasn’t at random; he did so because they rank pretty high on all merit-based qualifications when compared to shitholes. Empirically, if you’re from Norway you’re more likely to have a valuable skill set. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1808 "2018-01-17T12:57:40Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Yeah, he specifically mentioned preferring Norway. This wasn’t at random; he did so because they rank pretty high on all merit-based qualifications when compared to shitholes. > > Empirically, if you’re from Norway you’re more likely to have a valuable skill set. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I’m sure that’s EXACTLY what he was thinking. C’mon. ![https://i.imgur.com/2M619WL.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/6/d654b5454c90992f0743222de4c38b1f6e919e7c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1809 "2018-01-17T13:03:19Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I’m sure that’s EXACTLY what he was thinking. > > C’mon. ![https://i.imgur.com/2M619WL.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/6/d654b5454c90992f0743222de4c38b1f6e919e7c.png) Well, why would you assume otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1810 "2018-01-17T13:17:08Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Well, why would you assume otherwise? Because 40% of the words that you used aren’t in Trump’s vocabulary. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1811 "2018-01-17T13:31:29Z")
When I applied for my business to be on angieslist they did a background check on me to make sure I wasn’t a shithole person with a crime record. They probably want good contractors to do work for customers. On another note I am kinda like our current immigration system in which I take all types of jobs, even the jobs in shit hole basements, crawl spaces and attics in poor areas of the city. It would nice to only have to do work in orchard park or williamsville but hey everyone deserves to be comfortable. All joking aside, he shouldn’t really talk that way, although if something good comes from this well then I guess his plan worked if he had planned to cause the uproar. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1812 "2018-01-17T13:35:33Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Because 40% of the words that you used aren’t in Trump’s vocabulary. :lol: Opinion isn’t an argument 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1813 "2018-01-17T18:42:32Z")
The 4D chess-master has the media eating out of his hand. It is hilarious watching the stable genius bat the halfwit media around like a little brain damaged mouse. What is even funnier is watching people mock what they don’t understand making them look even more foolish. - - - Updated - - - Borrowed: “He lives rent free in their heads.” LOL So true. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1814 "2018-01-18T03:29:56Z")
You have to scroll past 19 stories on CNN’s mobile site right now, almost every one of them some anti-Trump BS, before you get to the story about Apple. What a joke. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1815 "2018-01-18T05:07:03Z")
> [@Wahoo](#): > > When I applied for my business to be on angieslist they did a background check on me to make sure I wasn’t a shithole person with a crime record. They probably want good contractors to do work for customers. > > On another note I am kinda like our current immigration system in which I take all types of jobs, even the jobs in shit hole basements, crawl spaces and attics in poor areas of the city. It would nice to only have to do work in orchard park or williamsville but hey everyone deserves to be comfortable. > > All joking aside, he shouldn’t really talk that way, although if something good comes from this well then I guess his plan worked if he had planned to cause the uproar. So where does Derby fall on your list? Shithole town? ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1816 "2018-01-18T06:43:43Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > You have to scroll past 19 stories on CNN’s mobile site right now, almost every one of them some anti-Trump BS, before you get to the story about Apple. What a joke. Pro-Tip - Don’t go to [CNN.com](http://CNN.com). Or Fox News, MSNBC, Breitbart, etc… I’ve completely stopped checking in at those sites since they are so damn toxic. Not only are they super sensational, but they try to make you think that the other side is completely wrong no matter what. I’ve limited myself to The Hill, Politico, NPR, WaPo, WSJ, and The Guardian. - Big story hits - Wait for those sites to cover it properly - Make honest assessment - Discuss with other perspectives - - - Updated - - - > [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Opinion isn’t an argument 🙂 ![https://i.redd.it/823blwxgipa01.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/5/75a5c8b92dcc536f4b9e6a90238f643454fa992e.jpeg) But seriously, it’s not a chess move. He just fucked up and said something he shouldn’t have. Like most shit he does, denying it and lying about it just makes it talked about longer. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1817 "2018-01-18T06:55:31Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > So where does Derby fall on your list? Shithole town? haha, Hell no! I think your garage is nicer than my home lol Nice country feel but not too far away. I’d love to one day live somewhere like derby or eden. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1818 "2018-01-18T11:53:13Z")
> [@bing](#): > > can we get back to why the shithole nation comment is not only a good thing but how all those shithole nations are still shithole nations despite billions in aid? One of my carriers just rolled out some new technology that allows me scan my pdf apps into their website to populate data fields. I sent him an email after using it and told him that this service definitely was not a shithole. He forwarded to his boss and said that was the best review an agent has given them in quote some time. We are going to have dinner and drinks next week to celebrate. [#MAGA](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=MAGA) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1819 "2018-01-18T12:01:42Z")
Also, this is pretty legit. ![https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180118/36359f90e710a23c1f0b083b5e825a26.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180118/36359f90e710a23c1f0b083b5e825a26.jpg) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441/1820 "2018-01-19T06:47:03Z")
Might as well talk about [#releasethememo](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=releasethememo) in here. What’s up with this thing? I haven’t seen any serious attempts to connect this to Obama. Instead, it sounds like people who are still in office are about to get some serious heat. I see a lot of comments about this effecting Mueller’s investigation but how could an investigation that has already yielded several indictments be that effected? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=90) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-trump-presidency-discussion-thread-non-meme-version/274441.md?page=92)