# The UK does what we thought was not possible

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 11, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601 "2009-05-11T08:12:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/1 "2009-05-11T08:12:58Z")

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> **[UK entrepreneurs open Pit Start, the country's first self-service garage](https://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/11/uk-entrepreneurs-open-pit-start-first-drive-through-self-serv/)**
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> If you're a London gearhead and want to work on your car but have no place to do it, you'll want to check out Pit Start, a new self-service garage. It is exactly what it sounds like – a communal pay-by-the-hour workspace. Would-be tinkerers can...

The UK does what we thought was not possible

If you’re a London gearhead and want to work on your car but have no place to do it, you’ll want to check out Pit Start, a new self-service garage. It is exactly what it sounds like – a communal pay-by-the-hour workspace. Would-be tinkerers can pre-book a space or drop in, and upon arrival, a Pit Start employee will assign you one of the twenty repair bays depending on the kind of work you’ll be doing.

Bays can be rented for a minimum of hour, and it’s £10 for bays without lifts (a little over $15 USD) or £20 (roughly $30 USD) for one of the six bays that come with a four-ton hoist. Pit Start provides an array of common tools for free, sells oil and basic fluids, has a directory of nearby mechanics, and can arrange to have parts delivered for you within the hour. The only things you can’t do are tasks that involve welding or paint spraying. This month, bay rental is 50% off, and the garage is open 24/7 in case you get the urge to install a turbo at 3 a.m. They even provide shop manuals.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/2 "2009-05-11T08:17:53Z")

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Canada does it too. I can be done pretty much anywhere but here, where lawyers outnumber common sense and self responsibility.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/3 "2009-05-11T08:53:11Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Canada does it too. I can be done pretty much anywhere but here, where lawyers outnumber common sense and self responsibility.

Truth. There’s a huge one in St. Catharines right near the Welland canal.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/4 "2009-05-11T09:25:33Z")

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thats pretty convenient

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/5 "2009-05-11T09:25:50Z")

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meh… one car falls on a person and the business model fails.

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**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/6 "2009-05-11T09:32:13Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> meh… one car falls on a person and the business model fails.

Yeah I would say part of the reason for 4 post drive on lifts instead of a 2 post

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/7 "2009-05-11T09:38:20Z")

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With a small amount of supervision, you can mitigate the risks.

I took an automotive shop class in H.S., we put cars on lifts and drove them in/out of the shop constantly. Nobody ever got hurt. If a H.S. can do it with 1 person supervising students, then this can be done.

In America, you can jump out of a plane at 13k ft., but you cannot open up a self-service auto repair shop.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/8 "2009-05-11T09:49:25Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> meh… one car falls on a person and the business model fails.

maybe they have people sign waivers

edit: they have to do something like that, there’s plenty of people that will fuck up the lift points on their cars

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/9 "2009-05-11T10:05:00Z")

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you cant fuck up lift points on a four post

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**Author:** ![JCuz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jcuz/32/7338_2.png) [@JCuz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JCuz)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/10 "2009-05-11T10:16:41Z")

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this would be great for me as I don’t even have a driveway to work on things. Have to use friends houses :/.

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**Author:** ![jcruiza120](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jcruiza120](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jcruiza120)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/11 "2009-05-11T10:31:24Z")

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> you cant fuck up lift points on a four post

My old subie was all jacked up at the lift points from the PO.

I was actually talking to my dad about this a few weeks ago, and he told me there used to be a place downtown to rent lifts for personal service. Dunno what happened to it tho.

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/12 "2009-05-11T11:13:51Z")

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almost every military post has one of these facilities.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/13 "2009-05-11T12:21:33Z")

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This is a awesome idea but it would have to be a legal and insurance nightmare for the owners.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/14 "2009-05-11T12:35:26Z")

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umm: [http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63991&highlight=workspace](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63991&highlight=workspace)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/15 "2009-05-11T12:44:18Z")

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> [@mafdark](#):
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> umm: [http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63991&highlight=workspace](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63991&highlight=workspace)

Lifts not found, or major tool rentals, or hourly garage space rental.

Cool that you’re renting space, but not really the same class of legal liability as what’s being discussed here.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/16 "2009-05-11T13:44:28Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> Truth. There’s a huge one in St. Catharines right near the Welland canal.

yup, i used to use it all the time…

they also have a paint booth there.

We did clutch jobs, motor swaps etc. etc. back in the day

place has been there for decades with no issues… therefore, any naysayers are clearly proven wrong.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/17 "2009-05-11T14:40:56Z")

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bing… can somebody who has no idea what they’re doing just show up and rent a lift?

I don’t know if canadian law is better, but in the US even with a waiver and insurance some dumbass will drop a car on his head and that will be the end of it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/18 "2009-05-11T14:58:40Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Lifts not found, or major tool rentals, or hourly garage space rental.
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> Cool that you’re renting space, but not really the same class of legal liability as what’s being discussed here.

lifts, major tools, and liability in due time. :roflpicard:  
hourly rentals are available.

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**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/19 "2009-05-11T20:43:06Z")

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I’d be scared to work next to someone who has no idea how to set a lift properly.

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uk-does-what-we-thought-was-not-possible/67601/20 "2009-05-11T21:23:44Z")

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are we really having this conversation again? haha this comes up every few months it seems, canada has them and has had them

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