# The Undoubtedly Ultimate Sleeper Car **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [March 5, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337 "2009-03-05T16:18:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/1 "2009-03-05T16:18:57Z")
Courtesy [http://jonsibal.com/blog/?p=56](http://jonsibal.com/blog/?p=56) I’ve seen many sleeper cars but none comes even close to this. I WANT THIS CAR. A 4dr F1 car. Aside from the wheels, the exterior of the car looks very tame. Until you start the engine and it’s over. Talk about wolf in sheep’s clothing. 1980 Alfa Romeo 164 Sedan F1 car Some info: ``` Back in the day, there was this planned racing spec series that was supposed to be ran alongside the f1 series. This series was supposed to be called ProCar and it was going to be a spec series of production “looking” cars with F1 car engine, chassis, and engineering. Basically if this thing went through, it was going to be like DTM but the cars were F1 cars underneath a production sedan body, with no fender flares and only a front lip and rear wing added….The series never went through but Alfa Romeo stepped up and made this prototype along with Brabham. Its a 164 sedan body with a V10 F1 motor in the middile…The car looked exactly like a normal car, weven the body gaps and doors were made to look real even though you can remove the front clip and rear half as on piece. ``` ![http://br.geocities.com/capri7003/164procar.jpg](http://br.geocities.com/capri7003/164procar.jpg) ![http://www.carsweb.cz/hatt/videa/20070806_ar164procar.jpg](http://www.carsweb.cz/hatt/videa/20070806_ar164procar.jpg) ![http://www.webalice.it/robertomelai/Alfa%20Romeo/164%20procar%20POSTERIORE.jpg](http://www.webalice.it/robertomelai/Alfa%20Romeo/164%20procar%20POSTERIORE.jpg) ![http://www.webalice.it/robertomelai/Alfa%20Romeo/164%20i.jpg](http://www.webalice.it/robertomelai/Alfa%20Romeo/164%20i.jpg) ![http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/01/procarsingle.jpg](http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/01/procarsingle.jpg) ![http://www.velocetoday.com/images/september07/pc4.jpg](http://www.velocetoday.com/images/september07/pc4.jpg) Video: Check out the video. Even though it’s not in English, the sound of an F1 engine is a universal language. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/2 "2009-03-05T16:22:30Z")
if nots not street legal, its not a sleeper. end of story. ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/3 "2009-03-05T16:26:18Z")
wow ---
**Author:** ![tosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@tosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tosh)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/4 "2009-03-05T19:19:01Z")
thats a cool car but its basically a reskinned race car. but i have to agree with fastback. if its not legal, its not a sleeper. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/5 "2009-03-05T19:22:40Z")
Yeah if it’s not legal, it’s not a sleeper. -1 ---
**Author:** ![Singh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@Singh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/6 "2009-03-05T19:44:00Z")
still a nice find, i would say. You don’t see things like that everyday. Nonetheless its true, not a sleep if its not legal, cops would be over that. ---
**Author:** ![Conquerer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Conquerer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Conquerer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/7 "2009-03-05T19:51:00Z")
Man, that’s awesome. Seeing a normal looking Alfa flying around a race track with a V10 F1 engine… ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/8 "2009-03-05T23:18:55Z")
> [@SyracuseStreetRacers.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/syracusestreetracers-com/20611/153): > > Yeah if it’s not legal, it’s not a sleeper. -1 speeding isnt legal, loud exhausts arent legal, ls1 swaps arent legal. and yet… people do them! ---
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/9 "2009-03-06T00:04:42Z")
This is the best sleeper car! ![http://upscalesale.com/salesites/020915-0001/images/Race_Car_Bed_by_Little_Tikes_-_twin_size.JPG](http://upscalesale.com/salesites/020915-0001/images/Race_Car_Bed_by_Little_Tikes_-_twin_size.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![HayMakr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/haymakr/32/5738_2.png) [@HayMakr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HayMakr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/10 "2009-03-06T01:16:03Z")
^^ lol ---
**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/11 "2009-03-06T05:03:56Z")
> [@Shop fall update](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shop-fall-update/20633/11): > > ls1 swaps arent legal. Come again? ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/12 "2009-03-06T06:17:14Z")
LOL! best sleeper! ---
**Author:** ![Lucidsnow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lucidsnow/32/5538_2.png) [@Lucidsnow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucidsnow)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/13 "2009-03-06T06:19:54Z")
ahahah best sleeper… i like ur sense of humor. a car that is not quiet when running is not a sleeper car. everyone knows u gota beast under the hood. sleepers are those ppl running quiet exhausts with the valved exhausts and dump pipes ---
**Author:** ![Skinny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skinny/32/5584_2.png) [@Skinny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skinny)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/14 "2009-03-06T15:21:32Z")
that is by far the best sleeper. that crx looks like shit ---
**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-undoubtedly-ultimate-sleeper-car/122337/15 "2009-03-06T16:13:43Z")
> [@Shop fall update](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shop-fall-update/20633/11): > > speeding isnt legal, loud exhausts arent legal, ls1 swaps arent legal. > > and yet… people do them! yeah, cause you know having no headlights, tail lights is illigal to but everyone dose it anyways…