# The uselessness of a Gas Tax Holiday **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 1, 2008, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736 "2008-05-01T08:43:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/41 "2008-05-01T12:16:09Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > My point is if people save money on gas taxes they will have more to spend on other things which will create more tax revenue and a stronger economy. You could say that about any tax. It doesn’t always work. In this case, it would likely drive up oil demand enough to shift a lot of the lost tax revenue into the hands of the oil companies, and create a hole in the federal budget. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/42 "2008-05-01T12:17:12Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > You could say that about any tax. It doesn’t always work. In this case, it would likely drive up oil demand enough to shift a lot of the lost tax revenue into the hands of the oil companies, and create a hole in the federal budget. True even if it doesn’t drive up demand the price will increase. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/43 "2008-05-01T12:20:46Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > The problem is still the government spending though.😃 Well, there in lies the rub. Thats the biggest issue in government IMO (fiscally), and this tax vacation isn’t going to help it at all. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/44 "2008-05-01T12:38:55Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > lol, you should read the PDF link I posted. Yeah? More typical NY politician bullshit. “We’ll LOSE x dollars if we cap it”. Fuck you asshole. When you passed these taxes you never thought gas was going to outpace inflation by such a huge margin. That windfall in tax you’re getting is money you should have never got in the first place. But, in typical NY fashion, once you get the money you’ll never give it up. Remember our “temporary” sales tax increase? Yeah, like that will ever go away now. All you’ll hear is how much they’re going to “LOSE” if you take it away. You can’t lose something you were never entitled to in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/45 "2008-05-01T12:41:36Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Yeah? More typical NY politician bullshit. “We’ll LOSE x dollars if we cap it”. Fuck you asshole. When you passed these taxes you never thought gas was going to outpace inflation by such a huge margin. That windfall in tax you’re getting is money you should have never got in the first place. But, in typical NY fashion, once you get the money you’ll never give it up. > > Remember our “temporary” sales tax increase? Yeah, like that will ever go away now. All you’ll hear is how much they’re going to “LOSE” if you take it away. You can’t lose something you were never entitled to in the first place. fucking :word: ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/46 "2008-05-02T06:44:03Z")
> [@POOPRA](#): > > This leads me to believe that Obama might actually be able to change some of the stupidity in washington. The nation is going to be back in a huge deficit when a new president takes over from bush who took over with a 200 billion dollar surplus and turned it into a projected 400 billion dollar deficit. Great idea to hand out 600 rebate checks to all Americans when your already in the red from your spending. People dont think where the money is coming from, just duh im getting 600 dollars george bush is great. I rather not get a 600 dollar check and pay less for everything because the dollar is strong. > > Collins was on the news yesterday stating that he would not pull the county gas tax for the summer. I totally agreed with his decision and everything he stated. Is simple math again, where are you going to get revenue from when you take it from somewhere else. If you take away gas tax revenue your going to put the county into further debt or have to raise taxes somewhere else. Well for those that actually pay taxes, the tax rebate checks was money that came from MY wallet and its going back into MY wallet. If we are so concerned with the way that the government spends money ( and I believe that true entitlements are utter BS) lets look at cutting stuff. Lets cut all the fat local, state and federal jobs that pay great money for a shit job. Lets stop giving ever shit bag teenager that got knocked up a house better than the one i own, cause its curel to put them in an apartment, lets stop giving college to welfare bums kids. I worked my ass off, served 10 years in the service, and I still don’t get half of what the free loading shit bags in this state get for free. And by free, I mean with MY goddam money, YOUR goddam money, and every one else that actually contributes to the tax pool. We pay over 50 percent of what we make in taxes. Think about it, you work mon, tues and wed till lunch to pay for just taxes. I believe that removing the tax for just a few months won’t help, but remove it for the rest of my life, and now were talking. If you fix all the BS give away feel good shit, there would be plenty of money in the general fund to still fix roads. We don’t need to pay income tax, property tax, and school tax, and then when that is all said say that “oh, well that just pays for schools, medicare, medicaid and welfare, the roads need taxes to fix them”. Look at the cost of fuel breakdown, theres alot more than 5 cents of taxes in there, we pay more than enough. [http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf](http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf) Educate yourself, no one is going to lose a job, roads will still be repaired. There is 70 cents a gallon being taken in taxes, believe me, that money isn’t going to roads, its going into BS general fund programs. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/47 "2008-05-02T07:11:16Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > Well for those that actually pay taxes, the tax rebate checks was money that came from MY wallet and its going back into MY wallet. If we are so concerned with the way that the government spends money ( and I believe that true entitlements are utter BS) lets look at cutting stuff. Lets cut all the fat local, state and federal jobs that pay great money for a shit job. Lets stop giving ever shit bag teenager that got knocked up a house better than the one i own, cause its curel to put them in an apartment, lets stop giving college to welfare bums kids. I worked my ass off, served 10 years in the service, and I still don’t get half of what the free loading shit bags in this state get for free. And by free, I mean with MY goddam money, YOUR goddam money, and every one else that actually contributes to the tax pool. We pay over 50 percent of what we make in taxes. Think about it, you work mon, tues and wed till lunch to pay for just taxes. I believe that removing the tax for just a few months won’t help, but remove it for the rest of my life, and now were talking. > If you fix all the BS give away feel good shit, there would be plenty of money in the general fund to still fix roads. We don’t need to pay income tax, property tax, and school tax, and then when that is all said say that “oh, well that just pays for schools, medicare, medicaid and welfare, the roads need taxes to fix them”. Look at the cost of fuel breakdown, theres alot more than 5 cents of taxes in there, we pay more than enough. > [http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf](http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf) > Educate yourself, no one is going to lose a job, roads will still be repaired. There is 70 cents a gallon being taken in taxes, believe me, that money isn’t going to roads, its going into BS general fund programs. :picard: ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/48 "2008-05-02T07:12:07Z")
Hey im all for scaling down government programs/spending. It doesnt happen too often though, politicians dont get popular cutting programs. As far as rebates, I would like to see them when gov scales down saving $, not just issuing checks to people without a way to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/49 "2008-05-02T07:28:57Z")
i hate the taxes of this country. I wish just a standard tax a rate on shit people BUY, not earn. If you are working a full time job, that money should be yours. Privatize social security. Make the only deduction is health care and maybe a SMALL tax rate. Then raise the sales tax to 15% and drop the added taxes on gas. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/50 "2008-05-02T07:50:32Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > i hate the taxes of this country. > > I wish just a standard tax a rate on shit people BUY, not earn. If you are working a full time job, that money should be yours. Privatize social security. Make the only deduction is health care and maybe a SMALL tax rate. Then raise the sales tax to 15% and drop the added taxes on gas. agree with you 100% ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/51 "2008-05-02T07:53:20Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > i hate the taxes of this country. > > I wish just a standard tax a rate on shit people BUY, not earn. If you are working a full time job, that money should be yours. Privatize social security. Make the only deduction is health care and maybe a SMALL tax rate. Then raise the sales tax to 15% and drop the added taxes on gas. Move to the netherlands :shrug: We have one of the lower tax rates out there. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/52 "2008-05-02T08:04:47Z")
> [@walter](#): > > We have one of the lower tax rates out there. m’fin dawt. ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/53 "2008-05-02T08:12:21Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > Well for those that actually pay taxes, the tax rebate checks was money that came from MY wallet and its going back into MY wallet. If we are so concerned with the way that the government spends money ( and I believe that true entitlements are utter BS) lets look at cutting stuff. Lets cut all the fat local, state and federal jobs that pay great money for a shit job. Lets stop giving ever shit bag teenager that got knocked up a house better than the one i own, cause its curel to put them in an apartment, lets stop giving college to welfare bums kids. I worked my ass off, served 10 years in the service, and I still don’t get half of what the free loading shit bags in this state get for free. And by free, I mean with MY goddam money, YOUR goddam money, and every one else that actually contributes to the tax pool. We pay over 50 percent of what we make in taxes. Think about it, you work mon, tues and wed till lunch to pay for just taxes. I believe that removing the tax for just a few months won’t help, but remove it for the rest of my life, and now were talking. > If you fix all the BS give away feel good shit, there would be plenty of money in the general fund to still fix roads. We don’t need to pay income tax, property tax, and school tax, and then when that is all said say that “oh, well that just pays for schools, medicare, medicaid and welfare, the roads need taxes to fix them”. Look at the cost of fuel breakdown, theres alot more than 5 cents of taxes in there, we pay more than enough. > [http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf](http://web.syr.edu/%7Ejvstirli/files/Breakdown%20of%20New%20York%20State%20Gasoline%20Tax%20Rates.pdf) > Educate yourself, no one is going to lose a job, roads will still be repaired. There is 70 cents a gallon being taken in taxes, believe me, that money isn’t going to roads, its going into BS general fund programs. Ya lets cut state/federal jobs and put good people out of work, great idea. If you are “working for your money” then thats your own fault ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/54 "2008-05-02T08:16:09Z")
wow. just, wow. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/55 "2008-05-02T08:21:01Z")
> [@A.J.](#): > > Ya lets cut state/federal jobs and put good people out of work, great idea. If you are “working for your money” then thats your own fault lol :retard: ---
**Author:** ![HAiRymONkEe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hairymonkee/32/5172_2.png) [@HAiRymONkEe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HAiRymONkEe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/56 "2008-05-02T16:48:18Z")
Between 5/26 and 9/1 you will drive 10500 miles. At 11 miles per gallon, you will burn 954.5 gallons of Gasoline. Your Total Tax Relief would be $175.63 ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/57 "2008-05-02T19:05:52Z")
yea its just another ploy to try to make politicians look like they are doing something other than the real solution, find a way to reduce consumption. i give barrack credit for standing up and not supporting it and realizing that is a worthless fix to a large problem. ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/58 "2008-05-02T19:09:10Z")
Why don’t they just cap oil companys profits. Theres no need to make 100’s of billions of dollars in PROFIT Thats after everyone is payed, all the workers ect. Its ridiculous as hell, The government needs to come in and cap gas prices at $2.25. Gas companys would have to agree, A little is better than none at all. ---
**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/59 "2008-05-02T20:48:44Z")
Taking taxes off will increase the demand, supply is fixed for number of reasons -\> Economics 101 says prices go up pretty much back to where they were. You save nothing, oil company makes more profit(but not nearly as much as what govt. loses). Sounds like a great idea - where do I sign up? ---
**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736/60 "2008-05-02T20:51:22Z")
> [@Just Karter](#): > > Why don’t they just cap oil companys profits. > Theres no need to make 100’s of billions of dollars in PROFIT Because that would make you a communist, and nobody likes them: ![http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Joseph_McCarthy.jpg/501px-Joseph_McCarthy.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/5/e5a3de970667419e8f348822c2d758f970e2ae13.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-uselessness-of-a-gas-tax-holiday/47736.md?page=4)