# There is no God - Que?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [August 24, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328 "2009-08-24T11:58:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/81 "2009-08-25T10:52:37Z")
WAT?
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### Author:  [@Celtic1982citleC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Celtic1982citleC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/82 "2009-08-25T10:53:24Z")
^ Burn him and Stg2SSC at the stake for crimes against humanity immediately if not sooner.
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### Author:  [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/83 "2009-08-25T10:55:20Z")
Why are we burning Wayne?
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/84 "2009-08-25T10:57:36Z")
He’s referring to me. Wayne beat him to the post.
That’s the kind of BS I’m talking about. Dude doesn’t even know me or Stg (I don’t know him either) and is spewing hate like that. I feel bad for you man. You’re one messed up individual if you actually said that with any sort of seriousness.
Really sad the hateful state some people are in. :facepalm
Also, might I add. Many of you are way out in left field as far as what church, etc. is about. Why don’t you stop listening to what others say about church and actually try to experience it and understand it?
How can you knock something you haven’t fully grasped? I do that a lot myself, but I try not to. Half of you just say stupid crap without knowing what you are talking about when it comes to why someone is christian or what church is about. I for example have had some experiences that make me believe there is a God or confirms that there is a God or backs up the way I was raised. That’s my personal choice. No need to hate me for it. There are many religions out there that people have altered to fit their needs/opinion (some in a good way, some in a bad way). You can’t judge all churches by one church or one group of people. For example, when people think of church, they usually think of the pastor touching ones forehead and that person falling down. If someone did that at my church, the ushers would remove him on the spot. Simple as that. At my church, there is a couple of sermons, some hymns are sung. Some people sing a solo or play something. We pray. We go home. That’s it.
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### Author:  [@Celtic1982citleC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Celtic1982citleC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/85 "2009-08-25T11:21:12Z")
Yes, I was serious. I want to nail you to a stake, pour gasoline over your head, and set you on fire. I’m sadistic and want to hear you scream as your last breaths are spent screaming in agony. Excited? I am.
Really though, I grew up going to church (my grandparents were extremely religious, my fathers parents were strict Irish-Catholic) and did not get anything out of it. There was no enlightenment. No greater good to come of it. It was a bunch of people feeling sorry for themselves, searching for meaning in their pathetic lives, coming together to try to lift one another up. There’s another place for people like that. It’s called self-help groups. Or psychotherapy. I’m all for helping thy neighbor and everything, but shouldn’t feel I have to worship and live life according to A, B, C or be sentenced to life in hell. Please. I don’t hate people that goto church or think badly of them in any way, they’re intitled to live their life in the way they best see fit. What I do not like is when people talk about how those who chose to not do so don’t ‘grap’ the concept, or haven’t ‘opened their heart to god’. What the fuck? Just because I choose to live my life differently I’m closed minded and don’t understand how I should be living and fulfilling my life? How does that make any sense? Those who speak in such a way are the ones who need to broaden their state of mind and realize that EVERYONE is entitled to live life in accordance to their own beliefs and desires. The end.
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### Author:  [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/86 "2009-08-25T11:23:34Z")
> [@I gave in and bought XBOX 360 V.87fox and krazyjonlocatusuas](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-gave-in-and-bought-xbox-360-v-87fox-and-krazyjonlocatusuas/22034/37):
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> Okay I can’t sit here without saying something. You people can believe what you want to believe, but I’ll post this here for anyone who cares enough to read it. Take it or leave it. I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind here. But when you say something as retarded as what Benny just said, you basically throw out the history of your own damn country out the window.
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> George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, First Chief Justice John Jay. Names synonymous with the spirit of our country, founding fathers of the U.S.A. Over 200 years ago they shook off the chains of tyranny from Great Britain, by divine call. Citing 27 biblical violations, they wrote the Declaration of Independence, with liberty, and justice, for all. But something happened since Jefferson called the Bible the cornerstone for American liberty, then put it in our schools as a light. Or since ‘Give me liberty or give me death!’ Patrick Henry said, our country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We eliminated God from the equation of American life, thus eliminating the reason this Nation first began. Of the 55 men who formed the Constitution, 52 were active members of their church. Founding fathers like Noah Webster, who wrote the first dictionary, could literally quote the Bible, chapter and verse. James Madison said, ‘We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the 10 Commandments, with all our heart.’ These men believed you couldn’t even call yourself an American, if you subvert the Word of God. In his farewell address, Washington said, ‘You can’t have national morality apart from Religious principal,’ and it’s true. Cause right now we have nearly a hundred and fifty thousand kids carrying guns to these war zones we call public schools. In the 40s and 50s student problems were chewing gum and talking, in the 90s, rape and murder are the trend.
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> Abe Lincoln said, ‘The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation, will be the philosophy of government in the next.’ So when you eliminate the Word of God from the classroom and politics, you eliminate the nation that Word protects. America is now number one in teen pregnancy and violent crime, number one in illiteracy, drug use, and divorce. Everyday a new holocaust of 5,000 unborn die, while pornography floods our streets like open sewers. America’s dead and dying hand is on the threshold of the Church, while the spirit of Sodom and Gomorrah affects us all. When it gets to the point when people would rather come out of the closet than clean it, it’s the sign the Judgment of God is gonna fall.
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> Also, you can’t judge every Christian by the select few who start wars, etc.
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> Not all of us are like the crazy Phelps’ from Kansas, etc. etc.
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> A more religious America would result in better people. Nicer people. People wouldn’t be scared to death about picking up a hitch hiker, etc. The country would be better for everyone. But instead, you have these agnostic and atheist fools hating on Christians just because they choose to believe in something that they themselves don’t believe in. Notice how down in the south (TN, etc.) people are much nicer. There is a church on every corner. On sundays, a lot of places aren’t open. Go into the heart of NYC and ask someone on the street for a favor. They’ll run for their lives or give you a nasty look or tell you to get f’in lost. Being spiritual or moral helps EVERYONE.
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> Instead, the media and such promote violence, etc. etc. and then wonder why little 9yr old boys in FL take their grandparents’ SUV’s out for joy rides ‘because that’s what hood rats do.’ (Remember that video guys?) The lack of ethics/morals/values in this country is a direct result of the things we allow our kids and society to see/do.
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> Take it or leave it. I don’t care what you think about me. It doesn’t bother me at the end of the day. But I just felt like sharing that.
Haha do you know how many times you contradicted yourself in this post?
The biggest one I will point out is that you say America leads the world in all this bad shit, and yet according to the last census more than 89% of the country claimed to believe in God or some form of higher being. So 90% of the country is religious in one way or another and we have the highest crime rates, etc, so you claim. See where i’m going with this?
And I am so sick of this bullshit argument that religous people use that non-religous people are immoral. I know non-religous people who have done 80x more good in this world than so called beleivers, and that accounts for most of you guys.
Religion or not, there is going to be good and bad. You used NYC as an example and I will agree that many people are not as nice there, or have a offstandinsh attitude. Let me also say that in LI which is what i’m familiar with, most people there are jewish or italian and almost ALL of them go to service of somekind.
I respected you before because you were not judgemental, but now you have lost it. You perceive the world like every other hypocritical numbnut and percieve non-religous as being immoral and less than you. Let me tell you that moral and being good/bad has NOTHING to do with religion. I am not speaking from the heart like you, I am using facts. If 90% of the people in the country are religous, guess where 90% of the crime comes from? EVERYONE breaks the law. So good for you, you lost your own battle.
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/87 "2009-08-25T11:24:10Z")
Or…you can stop judging every christian by your “Irish-Catholic” point of view. Why not go visit a baptist church? Or a Pentecostal church? You have one view based upon one church you went to. Wow. You’ve really seen a whole lot.
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### Author:  [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/88 "2009-08-25T11:24:58Z")
I thought we were telling ghost stories?
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/89 "2009-08-25T11:28:05Z")
:rofl
I knew it would that would bend some boners
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/90 "2009-08-25T11:29:28Z")
> [@The irony is astounding](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-irony-is-astounding/22078/6):
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> The biggest one I will point out is that you say America leads the world in all this bad shit, and yet according to the last census more than 89% of the country claimed to believe in God or some form of higher being. So 90% of the country is religious in one way or another and we have the highest crime rates, etc, so you claim. See where i’m going with this?
>
> **Oh…you mean the kind that get confirmed just because their parents asked them to? The kind that do whatever they want, but when asked, say they are Christian. Do you even know what the purpose of a Christian life is?**
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> And I am so sick of this bullshit argument that religous people use that non-religous people are immoral. I know non-religous people who have done 80x more good in this world than so called beleivers, and that accounts for most of you guys.
>
> **I agree with you. That’s why I’m more liberal than some of my peers. I see the same thing. But yet you people make it seem like all Christians have done in this world is cause wars and heart ache. That also is not true.**
Anyway. You all have a great time enjoy this discussion. Benny’s post just stood out to me. Have a great rest of the day.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/91 "2009-08-25T11:29:41Z")
PS: I was raised methodist, all that shit is whack. Christianity as a whole is not even about faith anymore. It’s a business.
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### Author:  [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/92 "2009-08-25T11:31:31Z")
> [@MY NEW MANIFOLD...hopefully](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-new-manifold-hopefully/21948/32):
>
> Or…you can stop judging every christian by your “Irish-Catholic” point of view. Why not go visit a baptist church? Or a Pentecostal church? You have one view based upon one church you went to. Wow. You’ve really seen a whole lot.
ALL religions have one common factor. GOD. Never in my life or anyone in this world has someone spoken to, seen, heard, or had direct contact with this so called god. No-one. You can claim events, or even people that say they have seen god, but it’s all BS without hard evidence. Every event claimed as a miracle, has a scientific way of being explained if it dosen’t, that does NOT mean it is a miracle. Most people have a hard time coping with something if it does not make sense. When something happens in this world that cannot be expained we automatically associate it with religion which is BS. A thousand years ago we thought the world was flat. Science has a LONG way to go, but every thing that science has proven can’t be refuted. Everything, every single thing that religion says, can be.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/93 "2009-08-25T11:33:26Z")
I just don’t understand how you can put so much of your life into a book of STORIES that have been re-written/re-told an uncountable amount of times by an uncountable amount of people, about people that you have no proof even existed!
ITS A GOD DAMN FAIRY TALE AND PEOPLE DEVOTE THEIR LIVES TO IT
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### Author:  [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/94 "2009-08-25T11:33:34Z")
> [@Diamonds](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diamonds/22080/17):
>
> ALL religions have one common factor. GOD. Never in my life or anyone in this world has someone spoken to, seen, heard, or had direct contact with this so called god. No-one. You can claim events, or even people that say they have seen god, but it’s all BS without hard evidence. Every event claimed as a miracle, has a scientific way of being explained if it dosen’t, that does NOT mean it is a miracle. Most people have a hard time coping with something if it does not make sense. When something happens in this world that cannot be expained we automatically associate it with religion which is BS. A thousand years ago we thought the world was flat. **Science has a LONG way to go, but every thing that science has proven can’t be refuted.** Everything, every single thing that religion says, can be.
They told me Pluto was a planet. Liars. It’s still a planet to me. 😢
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/95 "2009-08-25T11:34:52Z")
Science is a “religion”.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/96 "2009-08-25T11:35:17Z")
Actually I don’t side with science either. I have no way of verifying that there’s a solar system outside of ours. I guess you can say that i believe in a higher being or beings, but I don’t buy all the bullshit stories/moral lessons. fuck offff
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### Author:  [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/97 "2009-08-25T11:36:14Z")
> [@Ilya"](#):
>
> Anyway. You all have a great time enjoy this discussion. Benny’s post just stood out to me. Have a great rest of the day.
Yes I do. I went to a baptist church and then a catholic church for 22 years of my life and during those 22 years I was devout. I understand the concept VERY well and have seen a lot. I have read the bible and studied the history of christianity.
I made my choice to move on recently and since then, the world has opened up and things make a LOT more sense.
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### Author:  [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/98 "2009-08-25T11:37:46Z")
Blahtyblahfuckinblah. Where are my ghost stories!?
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### Author:  [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/99 "2009-08-25T11:44:38Z")
I have a great ghost story.
One day, a man came to earth through his mother who never had sex in her life. He walked around for a few years, telling people his philisophical thoughts, then he was killed. But he didn’t die, oh no. His ghost friends came and stole him from his grave and he came back to life. Then, he lifted up into the universe on a white cloud of emotion.
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### Author:  [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/100 "2009-08-25T11:46:13Z")
You didn’t make that up. - rep for being unoriginal. :tongue
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