# There is no God - Que?

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**Created:** [August 24, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328 "2009-08-24T11:58:52Z")
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### Author: ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/there-is-no-god-que/246328/86 "2009-08-25T11:23:34Z")

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> [@I gave in and bought XBOX 360 V.87fox and krazyjonlocatusuas](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-gave-in-and-bought-xbox-360-v-87fox-and-krazyjonlocatusuas/22034/37):
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> Okay I can’t sit here without saying something. You people can believe what you want to believe, but I’ll post this here for anyone who cares enough to read it. Take it or leave it. I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind here. But when you say something as retarded as what Benny just said, you basically throw out the history of your own damn country out the window.
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> George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, First Chief Justice John Jay. Names synonymous with the spirit of our country, founding fathers of the U.S.A. Over 200 years ago they shook off the chains of tyranny from Great Britain, by divine call. Citing 27 biblical violations, they wrote the Declaration of Independence, with liberty, and justice, for all. But something happened since Jefferson called the Bible the cornerstone for American liberty, then put it in our schools as a light. Or since ‘Give me liberty or give me death!’ Patrick Henry said, our country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We eliminated God from the equation of American life, thus eliminating the reason this Nation first began. Of the 55 men who formed the Constitution, 52 were active members of their church. Founding fathers like Noah Webster, who wrote the first dictionary, could literally quote the Bible, chapter and verse. James Madison said, ‘We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the 10 Commandments, with all our heart.’ These men believed you couldn’t even call yourself an American, if you subvert the Word of God. In his farewell address, Washington said, ‘You can’t have national morality apart from Religious principal,’ and it’s true. Cause right now we have nearly a hundred and fifty thousand kids carrying guns to these war zones we call public schools. In the 40s and 50s student problems were chewing gum and talking, in the 90s, rape and murder are the trend.
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> Abe Lincoln said, ‘The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation, will be the philosophy of government in the next.’ So when you eliminate the Word of God from the classroom and politics, you eliminate the nation that Word protects. America is now number one in teen pregnancy and violent crime, number one in illiteracy, drug use, and divorce. Everyday a new holocaust of 5,000 unborn die, while pornography floods our streets like open sewers. America’s dead and dying hand is on the threshold of the Church, while the spirit of Sodom and Gomorrah affects us all. When it gets to the point when people would rather come out of the closet than clean it, it’s the sign the Judgment of God is gonna fall.
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> Also, you can’t judge every Christian by the select few who start wars, etc.
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> Not all of us are like the crazy Phelps’ from Kansas, etc. etc.
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> A more religious America would result in better people. Nicer people. People wouldn’t be scared to death about picking up a hitch hiker, etc. The country would be better for everyone. But instead, you have these agnostic and atheist fools hating on Christians just because they choose to believe in something that they themselves don’t believe in. Notice how down in the south (TN, etc.) people are much nicer. There is a church on every corner. On sundays, a lot of places aren’t open. Go into the heart of NYC and ask someone on the street for a favor. They’ll run for their lives or give you a nasty look or tell you to get f’in lost. Being spiritual or moral helps EVERYONE.
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> Instead, the media and such promote violence, etc. etc. and then wonder why little 9yr old boys in FL take their grandparents’ SUV’s out for joy rides ‘because that’s what hood rats do.’ (Remember that video guys?) The lack of ethics/morals/values in this country is a direct result of the things we allow our kids and society to see/do.
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> Take it or leave it. I don’t care what you think about me. It doesn’t bother me at the end of the day. But I just felt like sharing that.

Haha do you know how many times you contradicted yourself in this post?

The biggest one I will point out is that you say America leads the world in all this bad shit, and yet according to the last census more than 89% of the country claimed to believe in God or some form of higher being. So 90% of the country is religious in one way or another and we have the highest crime rates, etc, so you claim. See where i’m going with this?

And I am so sick of this bullshit argument that religous people use that non-religous people are immoral. I know non-religous people who have done 80x more good in this world than so called beleivers, and that accounts for most of you guys.

Religion or not, there is going to be good and bad. You used NYC as an example and I will agree that many people are not as nice there, or have a offstandinsh attitude. Let me also say that in LI which is what i’m familiar with, most people there are jewish or italian and almost ALL of them go to service of somekind.

I respected you before because you were not judgemental, but now you have lost it. You perceive the world like every other hypocritical numbnut and percieve non-religous as being immoral and less than you. Let me tell you that moral and being good/bad has NOTHING to do with religion. I am not speaking from the heart like you, I am using facts. If 90% of the people in the country are religous, guess where 90% of the crime comes from? EVERYONE breaks the law. So good for you, you lost your own battle.

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