# Theres a new name atop the big 3 manufacturers **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 27, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-a-new-name-atop-the-big-3-manufacturers/197678 "2008-05-27T13:41:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 51
**Author:** ![JettaDriverX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f4b2a3/32.png) [@JettaDriverX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaDriverX)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-a-new-name-atop-the-big-3-manufacturers/197678/51 "2008-05-30T21:33:04Z")
> [@how fast have you gotten your car?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-fast-have-you-gotten-your-car/36582/4): > > what are you talkin about about. its all perception and preconcieved notions. my dad has worked on cars for close to 40 years and is under both american and foreign cars everyday. he completely says the contrary. american cars are breaking no more than foreign cars and cost about half as much to fix. no one is buying them because they’ve gone away from american styling and try to look to much like the shit coming outta japan. America is also a hugely sheepish society, motherfucker believe TV commercials and propoganda like motor trend. he had an 05 hyundai come in with a rotted engine craddle. rotted that it couldnt pass inspection… an 0 fuckin 5 son! > > the only problem GM did was make cars in the 80’s so good they lasted forever then they realized they couldnt sell as many cars if they built everything like that and they instead made disposible shit boxes in teh 90’s. cieras/centurys/6000s/celebrities still all over the road like no ones business. find me and 80’s honda/ toyota in the numbers you see american cars… nope can’t do it… they’ve already be recycled into other things…that is if they hadn;'t already disinigrated into a rust pile. the difference between a rusted GM and a rusted foreign car is the GM will look bad when it rusts and the foreign car will fall apart. I hate to jump right into a fire, but this is messed up. I see a variety of cars in my shop every day. The most common problems: GM, and Ford, plain and simple. Can GM make a fuel pump that won’t fail before 100k. Can Ford make a transmission that won’t need a rebuild before 60k? I deal with this “buy American” notion everyday and it’s crap. Open the hood of your Chrysler. It WILL say Mitsubishi somewhere. If it doesn’t, it says BOSCH. Hmm Japan or Germany. NOT America. Why? Because the UAW is too greedy and screwed the American automaker. Thus it stunted the evolution of technolgy in America. I have owned 5 American 80’s cars and they all pale to my GERMAN 1986 Jetta with 215k on the clock and is STILL up and running with most of the ORIGINAL parts. My '87 Pontiac died at 154k, my '85 Ford rotted apart @ 143k, and my '88 Chevy had no power left at 152k. Though to be fair the '88 Chevy was totalled. I could rant about this forever, but the fact is that Germany and Japan build superior cars. Yes, they cost more to fix, but they aren’t going to need it as often. They do require some more maintainance in some cases, but with proper care will outlast their American counterparts. Why do you think Toyota can add Scion to it’s linup, but GM had to drop Oldsmobile and Chysler had to drop Plymouth. A shrinking American car market. My 1986 Jetta gets 36 mpg highway. A 2008 Cobalt gets 32 mpg highway. Twenty-two years later, we get 4 mpg less? What’s wrong with this picture? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-a-new-name-atop-the-big-3-manufacturers/197678)._