# theres ricers, muscle cars, diyer's but we all have the same passion lets preserve it **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 12, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731 "2009-06-12T16:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 39
**Author:** ![waltbabyluv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/waltbabyluv/32/6300_2.png) [@waltbabyluv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/waltbabyluv)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731/39 "2009-06-13T11:09:57Z")
> [@Top Gear's Cheap coupes that ARNT porsches](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gears-cheap-coupes-that-arnt-porsches/19292/26): > > diesel or e-85 would spin it great .but no the govt is pushin zero emmisions and puttin money in a lost cause .instead or workin more wit them they worry about battery cell an shit .its all a bullshit game all in all They will never push Diesel IMO, e-85 maybe, I dont see them ever pushing Diesel. Pretty sad. I know i think its Opel? makes a Diesel Hybrid that gets like 80 mpg! lol --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731)._