# theres ricers, muscle cars, diyer's but we all have the same passion lets preserve it **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 12, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731 "2009-06-12T16:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 42
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731/42 "2009-06-13T19:30:31Z")
> [@What do you pay for ur cell phone monthly?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-pay-for-ur-cell-phone-monthly/19299/12): > > diesel or bio .both run good and is cheap as shit to make …the govt like i said is to into all the green hippies and need to be more realistic on what people need and want and not what they wanna see happen E85 is garbage. One of the strongest supporters of E85 in hour area owns a Flex Fuel Tahoe and has been spotted on multiple occasions filling it with regular gas :ponder Diesel is a great alternative for better MPG, but it’s not going to substitute oil. We need a direct substitute for oil. Even it it’s not fun/exciting or cheap. We (car guys) won’t have to buy it, but if there are enough Greenpeace and tree huggers out there to switch, it will make gas cheaper for us internal combustion lovers and make it a “dated” technology making a “gas guzzling” Zr1 just that much cheaper. Alternative fuels are extremely beneficial to us, we’ll just let the green guys take the bullet, since we’ll enjoy the tried and true technology. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-ricers-muscle-cars-diyers-but-we-all-have-the-same-passion-lets-preserve-it/244731)._