# this guy is an idiot.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 6, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311 "2011-01-06T19:21:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/1 "2011-01-06T19:21:05Z")
> **[Run for the money nipped at the finish](https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Run-for-the-money-nipped-at-the-finish-941817.php)** > > Tip to opposing lawyer helps to sink man's $5.8M insurance claim Albany attorney John William Bailey noted the civil case stands as a somewhat amusing example of how a person can come close to landing a large monetary award exaggerating their... _ **Racing ways at Lebanon Valley ruin big pay day** _ This past June’s ‘‘Eve of Destruction’’ racing weekend at Lebanon Valley Speedway turned out to be exactly that for a Dutchess County man’s $5 million injury claim. Albany Attorney [John William Bailey](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22John+William+Bailey%22) noted the civil case stands as a somewhat amusing example of how a person can come close to landing a large monetary award exaggerating their injuries. Former trucker [Richard Roger](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Richard+Roger%22) of Rhinebeck filed a $5,826,784 claim against Kemper, Lumbermans, [Unitrin Insurance Co.](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Unitrin+Insurance+Co.%22) for a car crash he was in on his way home from work in Aug., 2007, on Route 9 in Rhinebeck, according to court records. The case went before White Plains arbitrator attorney [Howard I. Bushin](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Howard+I.+Bushin%22) and according to a copy of his final decision in the case, Roger claimed he could not return to work, ride his ATV, operate his boat, play with his children or even take short walks because of his injuries from the crash. He was asking for a monetary award from the other drivers’ insurance company. Bailey, who represented the insurance company, said the final hearing on the matter was held on June 30, when Bushin was to make his decision. [LEFT] Read more: [http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeRhrhf](http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeRhrhf) [/LEFT] ‘‘The arbitrator even told me was inclined to believe the man,’’ Bailey said. But on June 29, the day before that hearing, Bailey got a tip to show up at Lebanon Valley Speedway that night with a video camera and watch a night of racing dubbed ‘‘Eve of Destruction.’’ ‘‘I could not believe what I was seeing,’’ Bailey said. ‘‘This guy is driving a race car and wrecks on the final lap of a heat and his car starts on fire. He then squirms out through the window jumps around and starts waving at the crowd.’’ Roger competed in an eight-lap race in the pure stock division, according to the speedway’s website. Despite the crash, he finished ninth in a field of 15. The next morning before the arbitrator, Roger’s demeanor was quite different, according to Bailey and Bushin’s decision. ‘‘He moved slowly, moaned and repeatedly grimaced,’’ Bailey said. '‘It was hysterical. He said his life was ruined in the accident. I could not wait for my first question on cross examination: ‘Mr. Roger, what did you do last night?’’ Bushin wrote in his decision that Roger at first denied he was in a race car and also noted that his attorney [Steven M. Melley](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Steven+M.+Melley%22) of Rhinebeck was quite surprised by the turn of events. ‘‘After he was interrogated by his attorney he retracted his previous denial,’’ Bushin wrote. Bushin concluded in denying the large award that the case ‘‘was indicative of significant symptom magnification and he is certainly not nearly as disabled as he would have us believe.’’ Roger was awarded $25,000 in damages as the other driver in the 2007 crash was underinsured, according to the decision. Contacted in his Rhinebeck office, Melley said he and his client could not comment. Bailey will not soon forget the protest song written by [P. F. Sloan](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22P.+F.+Sloan%22) in 1965 and made popular by singer [Barry McGuire](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Barry+McGuire%22). ‘‘That ‘Eve of Destruction’ song, I just could not get the damn thing out of my head while I was waiting to cross examine Mr. Roger,’’ Bailey said. [LEFT] Read more: [http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeFC1ny](http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeFC1ny) [/LEFT] ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/2 "2011-01-06T19:23:31Z")
That asshole should be thrown in jail. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/3 "2011-01-06T19:24:30Z")
what the hell? what a MORON. ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/4 "2011-01-06T19:28:09Z")
FAIL BOAT! ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/5 "2011-01-06T19:51:22Z")
How was he not arrested for insurance fraud? ---
**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/6 "2011-01-06T20:08:43Z")
i just read this on a local dirt track forum and was laughing my ass off in the middle of class… god people are retarded ---
**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/7 "2011-01-06T20:16:15Z")
> [@Saleen S7 pulled over on the 90](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saleen-s7-pulled-over-on-the-90/38536/56): > > How was he not arrested for insurance fraud? Same thing I was wondering… ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/8 "2011-01-06T20:24:15Z")
I’m going to speculate that he still received SOME compensation from the initial accident, so maybe there was a deal cut there to get out of jail time/charges? IDK. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/9 "2011-01-06T21:00:35Z")
Call me crazy, but dont we sign a waiver to run any form of racing there…? That should hold I would think… ---
**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/10 "2011-01-06T22:01:32Z")
> [@BMW's](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmws/38527/22): > > I’m going to speculate that he still received SOME compensation from the initial accident, so maybe there was a deal cut there to get out of jail time/charges? IDK. he got paid for the inital accident,but was going through court at the time trying to say he couldnt do anything,but got caught in the race car ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/11 "2011-01-06T22:41:41Z")
> [@Saleen S7 pulled over on the 90](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saleen-s7-pulled-over-on-the-90/38536/56): > > How was he not arrested for insurance fraud? He was. Seven or eight counts of perjury, too. His lawyer walked out of the courtroom and said he would stop representing him as well after the perjury ordeal. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/12 "2011-01-06T22:58:45Z")
WWOOOWWWW… Not that I’d fake an injury, but if all I had to do was pretend to be fucked up so I’d get $6,000,000 I would 110% live the part until I got that money… This guy is a complete retard and should DEF be thrown in jail. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/13 "2011-01-07T04:26:19Z")
travis??? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/14 "2011-01-07T04:27:37Z")
> [@What to do about noisy neighbors...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-about-noisy-neighbors/38542/11): > > [http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php](http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php) > > _ **Racing ways at Lebanon Valley ruin big pay day** _ > > This past June’s ‘‘Eve of Destruction’’ racing weekend at Lebanon Valley Speedway turned out to be exactly that for a Dutchess County man’s $5 million injury claim. > > Albany Attorney [John William Bailey](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22John+William+Bailey%22) noted the civil case stands as a somewhat amusing example of how a person can come close to landing a large monetary award exaggerating their injuries. > > Former fluffer travis kock of Rhinebeck filed a $5,826,784 claim against Kemper, Lumbermans, [Unitrin Insurance Co.](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Unitrin+Insurance+Co.%22) for a car crash he was in on his way home from work in Aug., 2007, on Route 9 in Rhinebeck, according to court records. > > The case went before White Plains arbitrator attorney [Howard I. Bushin](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Howard+I.+Bushin%22) and according to a copy of his final decision in the case, Roger claimed he could not return to work, ride his ATV, operate his boat, play with his children or even take short walks because of his injuries from the crash. > > He was asking for a monetary award from the other drivers’ insurance company. > > Bailey, who represented the insurance company, said the final hearing on the matter was held on June 30, when Bushin was to make his decision. > > [LEFT]Read more: [http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeRhrhf[/LEFT]](http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeRhrhf%5B/LEFT%5D) > > ‘‘The arbitrator even told me was inclined to believe the man,’’ Bailey said. > But on June 29, the day before that hearing, Bailey got a tip to show up at Lebanon Valley Speedway that night with a video camera and watch a night of racing dubbed ‘‘Eve of Destruction.’’ > > ‘‘I could not believe what I was seeing,’’ Bailey said. ‘‘This guy is driving a race car and wrecks on the final lap of a heat and his car starts on fire. He then squirms out through the window jumps around and starts waving at the crowd.’’ > > Roger competed in an eight-lap race in the pure stock division, according to the speedway’s website. Despite the crash, he finished ninth in a field of 15. > > The next morning before the arbitrator, Roger’s demeanor was quite different, according to Bailey and Bushin’s decision. > > ‘‘He moved slowly, moaned and repeatedly grimaced,’’ Bailey said. '‘It was hysterical. He said his life was ruined in the accident. I could not wait for my first question on cross examination: ‘Mr. Roger, what did you do last night?’’ > > Bushin wrote in his decision that Roger at first denied he was in a race car and also noted that his attorney [Steven M. Melley](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Steven+M.+Melley%22) of Rhinebeck was quite surprised by the turn of events. > > ‘‘After he was interrogated by his attorney he retracted his previous denial,’’ Bushin wrote. > > Bushin concluded in denying the large award that the case ‘‘was indicative of significant symptom magnification and he is certainly not nearly as disabled as he would have us believe.’’ > > Roger was awarded $25,000 in damages as the other driver in the 2007 crash was underinsured, according to the decision. > Contacted in his Rhinebeck office, Melley said he and his client could not comment. > > Bailey will not soon forget the protest song written by [P. F. Sloan](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22P.+F.+Sloan%22) in 1965 and made popular by singer [Barry McGuire](http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Barry+McGuire%22). > > ‘‘That ‘Eve of Destruction’ song, I just could not get the damn thing out of my head while I was waiting to cross examine Mr. Roger,’’ Bailey said. > > [LEFT]Read more: [http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeFC1ny[/LEFT]](http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Racing-ways-at-Lebanon-Valley-ruin-big-pay-day-941817.php#ixzz1AJeFC1ny%5B/LEFT%5D) fixed ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/15 "2011-01-07T06:10:06Z")
They should send him my way, I’ll blow both his legs off with the shotgun and give him a real reason to be handicapped. cocksucker costing everybody money. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/16 "2011-01-07T06:26:13Z")
Wayne fixes errydin! ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-is-an-idiot/256311/17 "2011-01-07T10:32:30Z")
wow what an idiot