# This is it guys; I've had enough.

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [March 7, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-it-guys-ive-had-enough/104303 "2007-03-07T17:13:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![NoSkillz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/noskillz/32/5606_2.png) [@NoSkillz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NoSkillz)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-it-guys-ive-had-enough/104303/59 "2007-03-10T08:55:51Z")

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> [@Modding Cars and Passing Inspection](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/modding-cars-and-passing-inspection/11639/6):
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> You should mention to the judge that you **assumed** your stock system measured 83 dB as per the Transport canada regulations. Then you went shopping for a new system as your old one rusted apart and it was too loud. You should mention that noice was one consideration you had in mind when shopping for a new exhaust.
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> If you can make a video of a stock exhaust sound, and your exhaust sound, and show that yours is not substantially greater, then you should be good as per the PACER reccomendation set out by the OPP:
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> [http://www.officermike.com/roadsafe/pacer.htm](http://www.officermike.com/roadsafe/pacer.htm)
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> Notice they use the word substantially?
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> Basically, play as if you were trying to keep the same sound level, **and you thought this new one was sufficient, as per a video clip.**
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> It’s not much, but at least you have some regulation to stand on. If you can get a video of your car exhaust loudness being measured, that’s even better.
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> This is just an idea. I’ve never tried this, but it makes sense to me. Feel free to poke holes in my theory. As we address the holes, your argument will get tighter and more refined.

You shouldn’t use “mistake a fact” for a defense… well technically you can but its the worst thing you can do.

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