# This is not the DROID you are looking for.......move along

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**Created:** [October 28, 2009, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906 "2009-10-28T07:21:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/61 "2009-10-31T20:37:49Z")

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Anyway. I’m off to play Forza. Have a good night.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/62 "2009-10-31T20:41:20Z")

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> [@gingerman track day may 17 2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gingerman-track-day-may-17-2007/25180/3):
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> Also, a lot of those things in those sites (stuff people want) like the [everythingpre.com](http://everythingpre.com) link…can be done via the tweaks found in the Homebrew section (via Preware/WebOS Quick Installer). Not my fault the dude is an idiot (the poster) and doesn’t know how to use google/technology.

which exactly can be done with homebrew apps? I only see one on here (themes)

1. The ability to select the address in a contact card to open Sprint Navigation
2. Visual Voicemail
3. The ability to change the sounds for notifications on an application basis (different sounds for IM, SMS, calendar), also the ability to disable them
4. The ability to be more selective with Synergy. For instance, being able to only merge contacts with Facebook that are already in your phone and not import new ones.
5. The swipe up from the gesture area should collapse back to card view AND open the launcher in a single gesture, rather than requiring two.
6. An easier method of merging contacts. For instance, select a “merge mode” then click multiple contacts and click a “merge” button at the bottom. Include the ability to perform multiple merges from this mode without having to exit and re-enter.
7. The ability to delete and mark (as unread/read) multiple e-mails at once
8. Quick and easy keyboard shortcut for “Tab”
9. Be able to change the skin/theme for the phone dialer.
10. Select multiple amounts of time to snooze an appointment reminder in Calendar (i.e. 5, 10, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc.)
11. Voice command dialing via the speakerphone
12. Ability to remove any of the default apps (at least the icon from the desktop!)
13. The ability for the media player to tag Podcasts separately from music so music and podcasts aren’t merged in playlists.
14. Ability to copy and paste static text
15. Ability to save images from websites with a shortcut (press and hold or orange button and press)
16. Ability to open links in new cards with a shortcut
17. Ability to save attachments of supported media types from e-mail
18. The center button should light up when you have new notifications and the phone is asleep.
19. Better predictive text/autocorrect/spellcheck for text input.
20. Profile manager that allows you to set profiles based on time changing the ringtones, volumes, notifications, etc whether you’re at work, home, or otherwise.
21. Universal search that searches e-mails, conversations, and app catalog.
22. The ability to select all (Gesture area + A)
23. The ability to “mouse over” links, images, etc (Gesture area + Tap? Perhaps tap and hold?)
24. Center button turns on screen and prompts an unlock (Press button while phone is locked and be prompted for unlock)
25. Ability to forward SMS/MMS messages
26. Video recording through the camera
27. Proximity sensor turns the screen on and off rather than fading in and out.
28. Contact/Applications grouping and sorting options (Work, Friends, Social, etc)
29. Background queuing and downloading for applications.
30. Mandatory loading screen for 3rd party applications. It isn’t that bad for applications with small footprints, but some take 5-10 seconds to load.
31. The ability to scrub through music.
32. The ability to view animated gifs in the browser.
33. Allowing searching for text within web pages.
34. Virtual keyboard when phone is in landscape mode
35. Picture rendering should be optimized. Currently, switching between them and having them render takes around 3.5 seconds. That’s a long time to wait for a picture when you are just shuffling through them.
36. Emoticon support for text messages
37. Ability to connect to other Pres (or other devices in general) via Bluetooth to share contacts/calendar events/etc
38. The ability to manage the media player while the phone is locked
39. Alarms for the Task application
40. Ability to render Java applets in the browser.
41. The ability for the phone to notify you again if you have an unread notification. (Perhaps set it to notify you every 5 minutes, or other time period, until you unlock the phone).
42. The ability or option to split IM/SMS conversations into individually cards (one card per conversation).
43. The ability to lock/password protect applications.
44. Voice Recording

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/63 "2009-10-31T20:48:42Z")

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I haven’t logged off yet, but I am now. Before I go, here is what is in the homebrew (via Preware/WebOS Quick Installer)

> [@WTH: Who loves iPods and can write? $$$](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wth-who-loves-ipods-and-can-write/24795/20):
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> which exactly can be done with homebrew apps? I only see one on here (themes)
> 
> 1. The ability to change the sounds for notifications on an application basis (different sounds for IM, SMS, calendar), also the ability to disable them
> 
> 2. The ability to delete and mark (as unread/read) multiple e-mails at once
> 
> 3. Be able to change the skin/theme for the phone dialer.
> 
> 4. Select multiple amounts of time to snooze an appointment reminder in Calendar (i.e. 5, 10, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc.)
> 
> 5. Ability to remove any of the default apps (at least the icon from the desktop!)
> 
> 6. Ability to save images from websites with a shortcut (press and hold or orange button and press)
> 
> 7. Ability to save attachments of supported media types from e-mail
> 
> 8. The center button should light up when you have new notifications and the phone is asleep.
> 
> 9. Better predictive text/autocorrect/spellcheck for text input.
> 
> 10. Center button turns on screen and prompts an unlock (Press button while phone is locked and be prompted for unlock) **(this is already done when the keyboard is slid out and phone is off by the way)**
> 
> 11. Ability to forward SMS/MMS messages
> 
> 12. Virtual keyboard when phone is in landscape mode **(I know virtual keyboard is out and I know you can put stuff like messaging into landscape mode with a patch, not sure if the keyboard follows it or not)**
> 
> 13. Emoticon support for text messages **(is this dude blind? There is a bunch of emoticons? Also, you can patch it so it puts them into the symbols menu)**
> 
> 14. Ability to connect to other Pres **(or other devices in general) via Bluetooth to share contacts/calendar events/etc - Again, is he blind? My Navi picked my entire phone book just fine.**
> 
> 15. Ability to render Java applets in the browser. **(Is facebook chat on the full website Java? If so, it works. Also, MySpace chat on the full site works) - Not the sites that come with the pre by default (facebook and myspace)**
> 
> 16. The ability or option to split IM/SMS conversations into individually cards (one card per conversation). **(patch)**

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/64 "2009-10-31T21:06:47Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/3150):
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> I haven’t logged off yet, but I am now. Before I go, here is what is in the homebrew (via Preware/WebOS Quick Installer)

Awesome, can you list the name of the homebrew apps I need to do the above. Specifically #'s 3, 7, 12, 19, 25, 34, 42

Thanks!

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/65 "2009-10-31T21:21:13Z")

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Okay. Do the following:

1. Download WebOS QuickInstaller (.jar file - make sure you have the latest Java installed on your PC) - [http://www.precentral.net/sites/precentral.net/files/webos-homebrew-apps/wosqi/WebOSQuickInstall.jar](http://www.precentral.net/sites/precentral.net/files/webos-homebrew-apps/wosqi/WebOSQuickInstall.jar)

2. Download and install WebOSDoctor Recovery Rom (Required for WebOS QuickInstaller) - [http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/p121r0d10092009/sr1ntp121rod/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar](http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/p121r0d10092009/sr1ntp121rod/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar)

- **Do not run WebOSDoctor, or you may inadvertently erase your device to WebOS factory settings**
- Copy that .jar file to the same folder as WebOSQuickInstall.jar (I have it in C:\Palm Stuff)

1. Enable DevMode by typing “upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart”, opening the DeveloperMode app, and enabling the feature. The phone will reboot. Plug your phone into your PC via USB and select “Just charge”

2. Now double-click WebOSQuickInstall.jar (I made a shortcut to my desktop from it’s location in C:\Palm Stuff) and (as long as Java is installed properly) it will launch.

3. Install Novacom

- You can manually install Novacom by going in WebOSQuickInstall and in the menu File-\>Options, then press the “Attempt Novacom (re)installation” button.

1. Once WebOS QI launches, click on bottom icon on the right (I think it’s like an arrow and a hard drive). Change the drop down through the various feeds until you find “Preware”. Click download, then click install, and it should appear in your apps list.

At this point…knock yourself out. You’ll find a lot more stuff than just how to make the numbers you want work. There is like 90 total tweaks last I checked. Stuff like your personal avatar in messaging, snooze times, landscape mode for PDF app, etc.

Source (I worded it slightly different/order): [http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-software/206905-webos-quick-install-v2-7-beyond.html](http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-software/206905-webos-quick-install-v2-7-beyond.html)

Preware info: [http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/199090-preware.html](http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/199090-preware.html)

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/66 "2009-10-31T21:23:29Z")

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> [@name some high reving v6's](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/name-some-high-reving-v6s/24920/57):
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> Awesome, can you list the name of the homebrew apps I need to do the above. Specifically #'s 3, 7, 12, 19, 25, 34, 42
> 
> Thanks!

I know how to install homebrew apps. I want to know which apps or tweaks I need to install to do the numbers I listed. ^^

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/67 "2009-10-31T21:24:37Z")

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Do you have Preware installed? I’m not talking about downloading the IPK’s.

There is a whole category just for patches in Preware. Or you can do it all through WebOS Quick Installer (forget which menu at the top it was…device management?)

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/68 "2009-10-31T21:30:15Z")

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Most importantly to me… can to droid or the pre operate a quality visual voice mail like the idont?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/69 "2009-10-31T21:32:17Z")

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The Pre does not have visual voice mail. Yet. Do not know about the Droid.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/70 "2009-10-31T21:34:56Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/3152):
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> I know how to install homebrew apps. I want to know which apps or tweaks I need to install to do the numbers I listed. ^^

> [@Spring Time Jitters...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-time-jitters/25161/36):
>
> Do you have Preware installed? I’m not talking about downloading the IPK’s.
> 
> There is a whole category just for patches in Preware. Or you can do it all through WebOS Quick Installer (forget which menu at the top it was…device management?)

It’s under Tools \> Tweaks in WebOS QuickInstaller.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/71 "2009-11-01T07:47:58Z")

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> [@Official 24 Thread - 2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-24-thread-2007/22722/185):
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> Most importantly to me… can to droid or the pre operate a quality visual voice mail like the idont?

The droid and I think all Android devices have it, also the ability to use google voice if you’re using that.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/72 "2009-11-02T07:56:38Z")

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> [@Major sell off on wall street](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/major-sell-off-on-wall-street/25182/3):
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> The droid and I think all Android devices have it, also the ability to use google voice if you’re using that.

I am using it, never have to give my real number to people and all messages is in my gamail inbox. The DROID also came with the most sublime GPS package, beating out anything that is in a smartphone.

Trying to think of a few ways to save and extra $40 a month so I can get the phone…:lol

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/73 "2009-11-02T08:07:23Z")

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> [@Benefit for my daughter April 14th.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/benefit-for-my-daughter-april-14th/24487/36):
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> I am using it, never have to give my real number to people and all messages is in my gamail inbox. The DROID also came with the most sublime GPS package, beating out anything that is in a smartphone.
> 
> Trying to think of a few ways to save and extra $40 a month so I can get the phone…:lol

With the option to see the real street view with GPS instructions layed over it, like in Google street view, it beats out just about any GPS system. How long did you have to wait for your google voice invite?

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> [@RUBIK'S CUBE!!!!!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rubiks-cube/25204/8):
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> With the option to see the real street view with GPS instructions layed over it, like in Google street view, it beats out just about any GPS system. How long did you have to wait for your google voice invite?

I didn’t get my account through invites. I signed up for GrandCentral, a few years back, before it was Google Voice. When GrandCentral became Google Voice, my account became a google voice account. :thumbup

The other nice thing about the GPS feature is you will never have to upgrade maps.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/75 "2009-11-02T08:27:06Z")

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> [@For Newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-newman/25196/8):
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> I didn’t get my account through invites. I signed up for GrandCentral, a few years back, before it was Google Voice. When GrandCentral became Google Voice, my account became a google voice account. :thumbup
> 
> The other nice thing about the GPS feature is you will never have to upgrade maps.

Does google maps go off of the cell netowrlk or are the maps stored in the phone and just updated?

because now thats still the #1 downfal of phones with GPS… if you have no reception or really bad reception maps wont load or load very slow and can mess you up…

Where as a real GPS they are stored and well gps works pretty much everywhere

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/76 "2009-11-02T08:38:43Z")

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> [@RUBIK'S CUBE!!!!!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rubiks-cube/25204/11):
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> Does google maps go off of the cell netowrlk or are the maps stored in the phone and just updated?
> 
> because now thats still the #1 downfal of phones with GPS… if you have no reception or really bad reception maps wont load or load very slow and can mess you up…
> 
> Where as a real GPS they are stored and well gps works pretty much everywhere

I believe you need to maintain data connection for the GPS to work, which makes coverage that much more critical. It is a smartphone with GPS feature, so it will not work like a stand alone dedicated GPS device.

Check out this video, if you haven’t seen it already: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN\_jY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jY)

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/77 "2009-11-02T10:01:18Z")

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> [@Benefit for my daughter April 14th.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/benefit-for-my-daughter-april-14th/24487/36):
>
> I am using it, never have to give my real number to people and all messages is in my gamail inbox. The DROID also came with the most sublime GPS package, beating out anything that is in a smartphone.
> 
> Trying to think of a few ways to save and extra $40 a month so I can get the phone…:lol

The Pre also has google voice for anyone wondering (mafdark perhaps). I don’t use it though.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/78 "2009-11-02T13:12:04Z")

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> [@Ok, who is the idiot that crashed his WRX on Sheradin this morning?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-who-is-the-idiot-that-crashed-his-wrx-on-sheradin-this-morning/24905/50):
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> I believe you need to maintain data connection for the GPS to work, which makes coverage that much more critical. It is a smartphone with GPS feature, so it will not work like a stand alone dedicated GPS device.
> 
> Check out this video, if you haven’t seen it already: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN\_jY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jY)

Correct, it uses the data network for GPS so no signal means no GPS. Also means it will kill your battery while in use. So its not really a complete replacement for a GPS unit but its more than sufficient for most uses.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/79 "2009-11-02T13:13:43Z")

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> [@Large denominations of United States currency](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/large-denominations-of-united-states-currency/25210/7):
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> Correct, it uses the data network for GPS so no signal means no GPS. Also means it will kill your battery while in use.

Their was an iphone gps that allowed the download of the map on your phone, granted it wasnt tiny, took up almost a gig of space for the northeast but it was nice… even if you ddient have a cell signal it was not an issue…

This should be an option for these smartphones

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-not-the-droid-you-are-looking-for-move-along/247906/80 "2009-11-03T09:43:19Z")

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> [@Large denominations of United States currency](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/large-denominations-of-united-states-currency/25210/7):
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> Correct, it uses the data network for GPS so no signal means no GPS. Also means it will kill your battery while in use. So its not really a complete replacement for a GPS unit but its more than sufficient for most uses.

That isn’t the correct useage of terms there.

The gps signal is in fact satilite GPS… good maps and on the pre “sprint navigation” the route as well as the map are fed over the data…

In other words, your phone will know your “location” without data signal, but it won’t be able to show you it on a map that you can understand.

it shouldn’t take long before these phone can hold enough info to actually store all the info that tom tom or garmin units hold allowing them to be stand-alone without a data signal.

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