# This is somewhat interesting \[glorified Cavalier content\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [July 7, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167 "2010-07-07T11:29:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/1 "2010-07-07T11:29:12Z")
412whp on pump gas and maxed MAF/MAP sensors. Not a bad torque curve, either. :ponder For those of you with the ability to read: [http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt\_ion/products1.php?id=871&catid=143](http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=871&catid=143) ---
**Author:** ![HANSTECH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hanstech/32/6445_2.png) [@HANSTECH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HANSTECH)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/2 "2010-07-07T11:35:29Z")
so when you gonna do this chris? ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/3 "2010-07-07T11:39:48Z")
When I graduate college. So, never. haha ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/4 "2010-07-07T11:42:59Z")
didnt Morgan almost get 400whp just out of simple upgrades on his turbo one?? twin charged cavy sounds like a waste of money to only get 412rwhp IMO ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/5 "2010-07-07T11:46:30Z")
He has the platform with the LNF motor, though. Those are way easier to make power than the supercharged LSJ’s, even with the stock turbo. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/6 "2010-07-07T11:48:34Z")
wait so they use maf and map ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/7 "2010-07-07T11:50:13Z")
It uses the MAF, but you can switch it so if you run nitrous you can have the car base off the MAP sensor. I personally wouldn’t spend the $ on doing that, but I just thought it was interesting, especially the curve that it makes. Sure 412whp peak isn’t incredible, but the area below that is impressive. That’s usable power all throughout the RPM range, not just above 4500rpms like most turbo-swapped LSJ’s seem to be. Either way, 412whp on 93 octane in an economy car is impressive. ---
**Author:** ![NickAlero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nickalero/32/6440_2.png) [@NickAlero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NickAlero)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/8 "2010-07-07T12:02:41Z")
I thought about doing this to my Alero way back when :lol Gotta love the tourque curve on anything twincharged, its so flat! ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/9 "2010-07-07T14:39:14Z")
> [@WTB: 2 ping pong tables](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-2-ping-pong-tables/33347/7): > > wait so they use maf and map Fo’ sho. GM loves that shit. The only thing that happens when I remove my MAF is a fail code, then it switches to low octane spark tables and uses the MAP sensor. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-somewhat-interesting-glorified-cavalier-content/253167/10 "2010-07-07T14:43:55Z")
> [@annoy a coworker v.fucillo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/annoy-a-coworker-v-fucillo/33368/3): > > Fo’ sho. GM loves that shit. The only thing that happens when I remove my MAF is a fail code, then it switches to low octane spark tables and uses the MAP sensor. Yep. Good ol’ SD mode.