# THIS is why FM3 wins. **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [October 27, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130 "2009-10-27T11:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/41 "2009-11-03T08:11:53Z")
> [@Wii bowling high games?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wii-bowling-high-games/24646/9): > > They included the WS6 TA too šŸ˜ƒ That, I could NOT believe. I was SOOOO happy with all the F-bodies šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/42 "2009-11-03T08:30:47Z")
> [@So say you work for a faceless corperation.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-say-you-work-for-a-faceless-corperation/24632/27): > > One day yā€™all will see the light. forza 4 will be out by then. quit bashing a game for no reason fanboy. your worse then the 240 owners who rip on civic guys because they didnt buy a 240. to each there own. ---
**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/43 "2009-11-03T09:14:00Z")
No not to each their own. Keep arguing until a victor has been decidedā€¦ winter is coming and i have an n64 with mariokartā€¦ iā€™m going to dump a shitload of money into a new console, wheel and gameā€¦ tell me which one! ---
**Author:** ![OneEightZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c6cbf5/32.png) [@OneEightZero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneEightZero)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/44 "2009-11-03T09:21:53Z")
Forza, Online drifting is the shit. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/45 "2009-11-03T09:45:31Z")
Agreed ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/46 "2009-11-03T10:56:18Z")
> [@X-box live gamertag thread\*\*edited with list\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/x-box-live-gamertag-thread-edited-with-list/22265/835): > > No not to each their own. Keep arguing until a victor has been decidedā€¦ winter is coming and i have an n64 with mariokartā€¦ iā€™m going to dump a shitload of money into a new console, wheel and gameā€¦ tell me which one! considering one game exists and one doesnt, im pretty sure the winner is clear as of now. ---
**Author:** ![white2abbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white2abbit/32/5602_2.png) [@white2abbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white2abbit)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/47 "2009-11-03T11:08:52Z")
> [@Mystery weapon found in Iraq](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mystery-weapon-found-in-iraq/24648/5): > > considering one game exists and one doesnt, im pretty sure the winner is clear as of now. Breaker77, Iā€™m not hating on people playing Forza. Iā€™m just saying GT is more of a drivers game, where as I look at Forza as ā€œentertainmentā€. Itā€™s like comparing Microsoft Flight Simulator with something like Warhawk (or another arcade-like flight game). Who cares if GT5 isnā€™t out yet. GT5P is out, and itā€™s much more fun than Forza ā€“ if youā€™re into the DRIVING experience, not the engine swap, sticker slapping experience. Forza is decent, a LOT better than NFS Shift, etc., but itā€™s no Gran Turismo. I have HOURS upon HOURS of fun driving ONE car on ONE track in GT5P with my Logitech G25 setup. Thereā€™s even an unofficial ā€œD1GTPā€ competition for Gran Turismo. There are plenty of things to keep you busy until GT5 ships. Cal, PLEASE get yourself a PS3 with GT5P and a G25. When GT5 comes out it will be a nice treat, but in the meantime there is plenty to do in GT5P. Cal, if you want to check it out, let me know and you can come by one day or something. **For all you Forza players:** WHAT are you using as a controller? ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/48 "2009-11-03T11:12:24Z")
lol your so full of sonys bullshit its hilarious. k whatever go play your demo and jerk off over the graphics and ā€œsuperior driving experienceā€, ill go sit down with my ā€œstickers and engine swapsā€ ---
**Author:** ![white2abbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white2abbit/32/5602_2.png) [@white2abbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white2abbit)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/49 "2009-11-03T11:17:36Z")
This is a good read, athough you may just call it a wall of text. > **[Forza 3 vs GT5P Physics: Objective Analysis](https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/122236/)** > > Apples to Apples comparison of GT5:P vs. Forza 3 Physics > > > Introduction > > There is this perpetual debate about what game has better "physics"... I only used the ā€œstickers and engine swaps lineā€ because of your hostility. Iā€™m not trying to start any fights here, Iā€™m trying to help people out who are making a purchasing decision (including hardware), and who enjoy driving. I have no personal vendetta against you, however you seem to have on on me. Forza does some things better than GT5P, but people tend to agree with me, GT5P \> Forza. GT5, the full game, is going to have an entirely NEW physics engine from GT5P, which should set it even further ahead. No need to drop the jerkoff or Civic comments, Iā€™m just trying to help. Iā€™m not saying people are idiots for playing Forza ā€“ anything but that. If I had an Xbox Iā€™d definitely pick it up, but I stand my ground that GT5P is better, and based on that, GT5 should blow it away. _edit_ thereā€™s also this, but ya, itā€™s a GT forum, so obviously there is some bias. [http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122126&highlight=forza](http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122126&highlight=forza) ---
**Author:** ![Silvia\_Drift](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silvia_drift/32/5271_2.png) [@Silvia\_Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silvia_Drift)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/50 "2009-11-03T15:36:41Z")
Lol, white2abbit, youā€™re so much of a fanboy. Get off Sony and Polyphony Digitalā€™s dick. I have every Gran Turismo Game (except the Japan only ones) and am a huge GT fan, but Forza has destroyed every game in the series to date. I have both Forza 3 and GT5:P. GT5:P is garbage compared to Forza in EVERYTHING including physics. Polyphony is redoing the physics engine for the full version because the one is GT5:P is very flawed. For example, the Nissan GTR in GT5:P the game gets much more unsettled under braking than a Corvette Z06. How the hell is a 4wd, heavy boat with all its techno wizardry less stable than a basic, light RWD car like a Z06? You need to stop speculating on a game that isnā€™t out yet and compare Forza 3 to what is out. GT5:P does not compare on any level and by the time GT5 actually comes out, Forza 4 will probably be out lol. Thatā€™s not to say Iā€™m not buying GT5. ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/51 "2009-11-03T15:40:21Z")
Damn Iā€™m so lazy to get this game, but reading this makes me want to plaaaaaaay How much better is #3 than #2? ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/52 "2009-11-03T15:59:20Z")
> [@new toys in the mail today...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-in-the-mail-today/24643/27): > > This is a good read, athough you may just call it a wall of text. > > [Forza 3 vs GT5P Physics: Objective Analysis | GTPlanet](http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122236&highlight=forza) > > I only used the ā€œstickers and engine swaps lineā€ because of your hostility. Iā€™m not trying to start any fights here, Iā€™m trying to help people out who are making a purchasing decision (including hardware), and who enjoy driving. I have no personal vendetta against you, however you seem to have on on me. > > Forza does some things better than GT5P, but people tend to agree with me, GT5P \> Forza. > > GT5, the full game, is going to have an entirely NEW physics engine from GT5P, which should set it even further ahead. > > No need to drop the jerkoff or Civic comments, Iā€™m just trying to help. Iā€™m not saying people are idiots for playing Forza ā€“ anything but that. If I had an Xbox Iā€™d definitely pick it up, but I stand my ground that GT5P is better, and based on that, GT5 should blow it away. > > _edit_ thereā€™s also this, but ya, itā€™s a GT forum, so obviously there is some bias. [Has Forza 3 suppressed you appetite for GT5? | GTPlanet](http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122126&highlight=forza) i have some hostility because every single forza thread that exists you decide to come into and shit on with your GT5 is god of racing games bullshit. i dont give a fuck about gt5. do you work at PD? how can you even say that theyre physics is going to be further ahead? in all honesty you have no fucking clue. before forza 3 was released or even had much info available about it, GT5 was scheduled to be released for the 4th quarter this year. e3 comes around, turn 10 releases a TON of information about how much they have done with the physics and even went on to add tire deformation. what happens? gt5 gets pushed back AGAIN. PD is doing exactly what sony does best, rip off ideas from everyone else. theyve always done it, and its not going to stop. anyway, ill stop shit talking you if you stop coming into every thread with the word forza in it and throwing around all your made up infomation and telling me how gt5 is going to blow forza away. ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/53 "2009-11-03T16:00:26Z")
> [@07 PAX numbers are out](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/07-pax-numbers-are-out/20494/13): > > Damn Iā€™m so lazy to get this game, but reading this makes me want to plaaaaaaay > > How much better is #3 than #2? better in every way. ---
**Author:** ![nickdestcroix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nickdestcroix/32/5766_2.png) [@nickdestcroix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nickdestcroix)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/54 "2009-11-03T16:02:49Z")
i have both forza 3 and gt5p They both have there ups and downs but considering Forza 3 is out and gt5 is just a demo for the last few years now, iā€™ll stick with my forza 3 ---
**Author:** ![corpse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@corpse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/corpse)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/55 "2009-11-03T17:35:58Z")
OH YEA! well forza 5 is gonna kick gt5 ass all the way down the highway! with its uber helmet googles and driving chair with clutch pedal and full instrument cluster!!! ā€¦ really, you cant compare and IMAGINARY game(gt5) to a REAL game(forza3). thats like saying nissans 2016 240sx will be the fastest car every built and will get the best fuel economy ever!!! EDIT: didnt realize the guy above me just made the same point ---
**Author:** ![white2abbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white2abbit/32/5602_2.png) [@white2abbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white2abbit)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/56 "2009-11-03T19:09:43Z")
I didnā€™t ā€œmake anything upā€, but ya, Iā€™ve said enough. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Fresh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_fresh/32/5542_2.png) [@D\_Fresh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/D_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/57 "2009-11-03T19:20:06Z")
> [@X-box live gamertag thread\*\*edited with list\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/x-box-live-gamertag-thread-edited-with-list/22265/835): > > winter is coming and i have an n64 with mariokartā€¦ Mario kart 64 is the best multi-player racing game ever period! ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/58 "2009-11-04T11:02:35Z")
Just got it today and a bunch of other games. FORZA3 FTW!!! SOOO sick. Canā€™t wait to go home and play now. PS: anyone have any good recommendations for RPGs? First person level up kinda game. ---
**Author:** ![Driftin-RPS13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@Driftin-RPS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Driftin-RPS13)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/59 "2009-11-04T11:37:48Z")
wait for Final Fantasy to come out in Dec. for 360. it looks sick ---
**Author:** ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130/60 "2009-11-04T20:23:16Z")
> [@So say you work for a faceless corperation.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-say-you-work-for-a-faceless-corperation/24632/42): > > Just got it today and a bunch of other games. > > FORZA3 FTW!!! SOOO sick. > > Canā€™t wait to go home and play now. > > PS: anyone have any good recommendations for RPGs? First person level up kinda > game. Oblivion and Fall Out 3. If you like JRPGā€™s then go with Star Ocran: The Last Hope. Itā€™s not perfect, but a lot of fun IMO. Just sone annoying voice acting later on in th game. Overall a good buy IMO. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-fm3-wins/129130.md?page=4)