# this is why staying stock doesnt work
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [November 9, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978 "2006-11-09T17:09:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/1 "2006-11-09T17:09:37Z")
the saab was supposed to stay stock and just be a dd/cruiser. first it was a few small appearance things, then an intake and bpv kit, then i go to buy brakes (just to replace worn ones) and look what i end up with :bloated:
viggen ic (22x7x2.5), 22mm rear sway bar, steering rack clamp and brace (stops torque steer), viggen slotted brembos
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### Author:  [@kingsario](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kingsario)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/2 "2006-11-09T17:10:50Z")
lol nice
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### Author:  [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/3 "2006-11-09T17:11:24Z")
its like a disease
🤣
:tup: good buy
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### Author:  [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/4 "2006-11-09T17:14:34Z")
yea its hopeless to say ur gonna stay stock… it never happens :lol:
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### Author:  [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/5 "2006-11-09T17:14:45Z")
i havent even fixed the brakes yet lol
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/6 "2006-11-09T17:19:50Z")
you don’t need better brakes untill you have hi po pads billowing smoke from all 4 corners like my battleship 🙂
which aparently shoot sparks from the front (vids to come 🙂 )
nice upgrades. are the soft pipes soposed to be stiffer than stock or were they required for the FMIC?
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### Author:  [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/7 "2006-11-09T17:21:29Z")
haha yea, its impossible to resist :lol:
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### Author:  [@Chrish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Chrish)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/8 "2006-11-09T17:21:51Z")
Nice, i find myself doing the same thing, lol :tup:
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### Author:  [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/9 "2006-11-09T17:28:24Z")
> [@somedude](#):
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> nice upgrades. are the soft pipes soposed to be stiffer than stock or were they required for the FMIC?
the IC piping is OEM viggen stuff. the stock IC on my car has the inlet and outlet on the same side, so new piping is needed.
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### Author:  [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/10 "2006-11-09T17:32:25Z")
hmmm how much power can be made with say a turbo swap, ic, software, exhuast and other supporting mods?
the 9-3s are really starting to appeal to me
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### Author:  [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/11 "2006-11-09T18:15:01Z")
the stock turbo at 20-22psi can get you to the high 200s with software, intake, ic, dp, exhaust, few other things. people who go to bigger turbos can get to 4-500hp on stock internals, but trannys usually give out around or before 400.
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### Author:  [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/12 "2006-11-09T18:16:38Z")
what kind of mpgs do you see on avg. driving?
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### Author:  [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/13 "2006-11-09T18:18:58Z")
in the city which is my normal commute, very stop and go mixed with driving like an asshole, i get about 18mpg. straight highway cruising around 32mpg. if i lived more in the suburbs id probably see mid 20s on average.
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/14 "2006-11-09T18:19:21Z")
i almost baught one about 3 months ago…
the wife was against it so i said nay
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### Author:  [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/15 "2006-11-09T18:23:56Z")
> [@Locutus](#):
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> i almost baught one about 3 months ago…
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> the wife was against it so i said nay
:whip:
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/16 "2006-11-09T18:25:53Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> :whip:
so 🙂
it all worked out in the end…
my ka is more fun than a saab anyways 😛
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### Author:  [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/17 "2006-11-09T18:27:00Z")
eh…minor…subltle…i say :tup:
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### Author:  [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/18 "2006-11-09T19:10:01Z")
:bloated: way to stay stock :hang:
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### Author:  [@Calico\_Angel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Calico_Angel)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/19 "2006-11-09T19:12:36Z")
What kind of saab do you own?
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### Author:  [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/20 "2006-11-09T19:21:05Z")
what kind of saab do you own?
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