# this is why staying stock doesnt work **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 9, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978 "2006-11-09T17:09:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/21 "2006-11-09T20:10:55Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > you don’t need better brakes untill you have hi po pads billowing smoke from all 4 corners like my battleship 🙂 > > which aparently shoot sparks from the front (vids to come 🙂 ) \ hahaha fantastic ---
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/22 "2006-11-09T21:55:36Z")
> [@Adictd2b00st](#): > > haha yea, its impossible to resist :lol: It is when you drive a cobalt!!! :lol: So when is the software upgrade coming? ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/23 "2006-11-09T22:41:09Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > what kind of saab do you own? overused picture, but its the most recent. its been a dirty fall. ![http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/redrumeg6/cars/DSC07054s.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/b/2b9ed789674e2f56c8d5786339d8767c0574d5f2.jpeg) software and other mods are on their way. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/24 "2006-11-10T00:17:25Z")
> [@redrum](#): > > software and other mods are on their way. Hopeless. Completely hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/25 "2006-11-10T01:29:37Z")
eh, these cars are real capable of good power while still remaining dd’able… just ask double j, he has done enough research… brett you have pm ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/26 "2006-11-10T05:50:48Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > hmmm how much power can be made with say a turbo swap, ic, software, exhuast and other supporting mods? > > the 9-3s are really starting to appeal to me i’ll sell you mine ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/27 "2006-11-10T05:58:16Z")
Nice floor. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/28 "2006-11-10T07:10:28Z")
wait, so are saabs the next eg?? ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/29 "2006-11-10T07:13:35Z")
^LOL I think evos are the next EG ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/30 "2006-11-10T07:13:44Z")
To a car guy, stock is what you put in chicken soup 😃 ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/31 "2006-11-10T07:15:32Z")
> [@Locutus](#): > > i almost baught one about 3 months ago… > > the wife was against it so i said nay lol… the girl you’ve been dating for a few months that lives in another state? let me guess… it was more than 5 years old? LOL. OWNED. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/32 "2006-11-10T07:18:29Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > ^LOL > > I think evos are the next EG evos are sooooo last summer ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/33 "2006-11-10T10:00:38Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > evos are sooooo last summer Saabs and BMWs are where it is at for this summer. get with the times. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/34 "2006-11-11T19:03:17Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > Saabs and BMWs are where it is at for this summer. > get with the times. i thought i was with the times, i have a saab. i have to sell it like i did the hatch before its not cool anymore. ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/35 "2006-11-22T08:02:36Z")
I just put on the rear sway bar and steering rack clamp and brace, and just those two things made a surprising difference. They should have been factory parts. Neutral cornering and much less body roll with the sway bar, and the steering rack clamp and brace has made the car much more composed over bumps and a lot less torque steer. All that while leaving the rest of the suspension stock for the shitty city roads I need to commute on. Saab was close to a decent sport sedan with the 900, just fell a few parts short. 6-point subframe brace is next. ![http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/redrumeg6/DSC07144s.jpg](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/redrumeg6/DSC07144s.jpg) ![http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/redrumeg6/DSC07151s.jpg](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/redrumeg6/DSC07151s.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![auttiquattro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@auttiquattro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/auttiquattro)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/36 "2006-11-22T09:05:03Z")
Redrum how was genuinesaabs delivery? Im very impatient but they have an aux cable i want cheaper than the dealer. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/37 "2006-11-22T09:15:20Z")
they had my parts here in a couple days, and Nick is really easy to work with. :tup: which rear sway bar did you go with? i assume the front is from the 9000. ---
**Author:** ![auttiquattro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@auttiquattro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/auttiquattro)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/38 "2006-11-22T09:18:23Z")
thanks, ordering right now ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/39 "2006-11-22T09:26:29Z")
i just noticed they added a coilover package for the 900 and 9-3 hollar ---
**Author:** ![amd3dnow3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd3dnow3/32/7410_2.png) [@amd3dnow3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amd3dnow3)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978/40 "2006-11-22T09:28:35Z")
good luck and say hi to your wallet for me, we all know were this is going 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-is-why-staying-stock-doesnt-work/19978.md?page=3)