# This kid claims to love "systems" but...

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 7, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627 "2009-09-07T14:32:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![BlueS14240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blues14240sx/32/6410_2.png) [@BlueS14240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueS14240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/41 "2009-09-08T12:26:58Z")

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> [@FS: HOCKEY TICKETS Toronto/ Buffalo game. Jan 11](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-hockey-tickets-toronto-buffalo-game-jan-11/22646/7):
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> Mark cotazino is a complete tool, he has no idea what he is talking about. And never does

> [@FS: 95 neon chassis, big turbo, intercooler, corbeau seat, etc...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-95-neon-chassis-big-turbo-intercooler-corbeau-seat-etc/22635/4):
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> :number1
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> Exactly. he tells me he’ll pay me good money to install some shit, and he offered me $5… wtf?? so i told him i wanted $150 to install a deck in some POS eclipse he bought, and he bugged out… and then 3 days later he wanted me to come look at the sunroof cuz it was fucked up… and by look at me meant fix or tell him how to fix it.
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> :rofl

that kid is a fucking scumbag, complete tool, i cant even stand being in the sam building or general area as him :Idiots

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/42 "2009-09-08T12:29:03Z")

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> [@\*\* Official \*\* 2007 NFL NY Team Playoffs Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2007-nfl-ny-team-playoffs-thread/22528/41):
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> I got bored of car audio. After I got the truck done, I played around, took it to a few shows, and now its just…meh. Maybe next spring I’ll get the bug again and put the truck on the road

i got tired of SPL FAST, this is why I stuck around in SQ. SQ requires that anal streak in your character that not everyone has. That and patience, lots and lots and lots of patience 🙂

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**Author:** ![97cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/c5a1d2/32.png) [@97cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97cavy)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/43 "2009-09-08T12:34:47Z")

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Yeah, I got sick of building burp machines. The blazer plays music, and it does a damn good job at doing so.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/44 "2009-09-08T12:37:50Z")

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> [@DONT GO TO THIS AUTOBODY SHOP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dont-go-to-this-autobody-shop/22660/15):
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> I love kids who put all this stereo shit in their cars and then pop in a burnt CD from Limewire in MP3 format. I mean it makes total sense to put $$$$ into a huge stereo just to get the EXACT same shitty sound your stocker put out…just with more Bass.

> [@Has anyone ever contested a grade at UB?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/has-anyone-ever-contested-a-grade-at-ub/22693/3):
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> heh, yea. i try to get all the mp3s in 320 quality, but more often than not theyre not, but i still play regular cd’s in mine to get proper sound.

I up convert mine to 320 or try to download it as 320. I also pass a lot of my songs through SoundForge to clean them up, fade them, chop them (especially trance/techno since I hate the repetitive 1:00 in the beginning where its some crappy beat).

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**Author:** ![Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dave](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/45 "2009-09-08T12:49:36Z")

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> [@ipod mounting brackets/other car ipod ideas?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipod-mounting-brackets-other-car-ipod-ideas/22674/11):
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> Nah. The car was passed down to my little brother after I removed almost everything from the car. Only thing left are the tweeters molded into the A-Pillar. The rest of the components were sold off.
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> Fronts were Infinity Kappa components  
> Rears were Infinity Reference 2-ways  
> Deck was a Pioneer unit (was one of the top models like 7 years ago)  
> Memphis 2-Channel amp (275watt I think) for the fronts (backs were power off the deck)  
> 2 10" Memphis M-Class subs in a massive ported box  
> Memphis Class-D mono block amp (500 watt) for the subs
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> Also had a 15" lcd grafted into the trunk lid that was flanked by too other Infinity Reference 2-ways. The 2 channel amp switched to those speakers when the trunk opened. Had an XBox hooded up to the screen. Shit was badass for 2003.

true story… i saw it!

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**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/46 "2009-09-08T15:37:51Z")

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> [@i need to find random song?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-need-to-find-random-song/22679/11):
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> eventually i’d like to step up to full tube amps. ive been eyeing millberts for a while now, but their current equipment requires at least a 5000 dollar investment to get jsut 4 channels to go. i dont have that much right now. i need to call them again and bug them about the new amp they have told me about.

Tube amplifiers are archaic 1950’s technology. Expensive tube amplifiers are a very interesting animal indeed. You are literally paying money for distortion. The tube sound is just distortion that just so happens to have the correct harmonics to “sound smooth”. So if you want to spend money for an amplifier that literally produces 10-100x more distortion than an equivalent solid state amp be my guest. Many people indeed do like the sound. However with DSP you could create that exact sound cheaper with a solid state voltage amplifier.

I would recommend this for a 4 channel amplifier.  
[http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp\_prods/c2k25Frame.htm](http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp_prods/c2k25Frame.htm)

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/47 "2009-09-09T10:46:32Z")

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> [@tmnt aka TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES movie](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tmnt-aka-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-movie/22367/8):
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> Tube amplifiers are archaic 1950’s technology. Expensive tube amplifiers are a very interesting animal indeed. You are literally paying money for distortion. The tube sound is just distortion that just so happens to have the correct harmonics to “sound smooth”. So if you want to spend money for an amplifier that literally produces 10-100x more distortion than an equivalent solid state amp be my guest. Many people indeed do like the sound. However with DSP you could create that exact sound cheaper with a solid state voltage amplifier.
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> I would recommend this for a 4 channel amplifier.  
> [http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp\_prods/c2k25Frame.htm](http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp_prods/c2k25Frame.htm)

I really like how the Millbert sounds. I like tubes in general, but dont have one of their amps because of the price tag. Last I talked to them(which was like pulling teeth because those guys just WILL NOT tell you what theyre working on) I got a little bit of information about a new one theyre developing. The amp that I heard was this

 ![http://www.milbert.com/Files/products/BaM235ab/BaM235ab-TubesGloves-2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/0/103005bfefa8203e2d08efbf05bef13dbf145aa1.jpeg)  
this got amazing reviews up and down, but I didnt really know about them till i actually heard one and i freakkin melted. dont get me wrong, solid state amps are quite nice, especially the newer stuff coming out, but i still feel like tubes are just TITS! The thing with that amp is that when it’s made to distort it doesnt actually pop like your typical amp would, its a much smoother overdrive and it sounds more natural. Now, I havent heard one of these for a tremendously extended period of time(sadly), but i feel like this is the machine for me. they sound so warm and so natural that it really makes u wonder if youre listening to an amp at all. also, the power of a tube amp is different than solid state amp power. a 30 watt millbert like that sounded like a 300+ watt solid state amp. i think that if i was to pick up a solid state amp it’d be this for sure!  
  
I have been trying to find one of those for years now with 0 luck. There are sites that list it, but none of them have one in their actual inventory. I am going to contact MB Quart/maxxsonics directly and beg for them to look thru their warehouses and storage to see if they have one someplace in a dusty corner. for some reason this amp is a rather rare piece and i cant even find any private sellers. its like a damned collectible that ppl refuse to part with.  
Currently I am running this amp for my speakers  
  
and its totally awesome, but I still want more. im also planning to see if i can obtain one of the mb quart QSD216 signature series speaker sets. my friend has a set and he pulled them from his car and made them into monitors.:‘(:’(😢

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**Author:** ![97cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/c5a1d2/32.png) [@97cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97cavy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/48 "2009-09-09T15:16:42Z")

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Im a member of team maxxsonics…Give me a model number and i’ll see what I can find for ya, I have plenty of contacts at their HQ

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**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/49 "2009-09-09T19:05:45Z")

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The MB quart amp has literally 111x the distortion of the Zapco.

The Tube amp has 555x the distortion.

You do realize this right?

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/50 "2009-09-10T06:01:17Z")

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> [@NYSpeed vacation thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-vacation-thread/22792/5):
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> Im a member of team maxxsonics…Give me a model number and i’ll see what I can find for ya, I have plenty of contacts at their HQ

its called QAA4250. It hasnt been made for like 5yrs or so, this is back when quart was under rockford fosgate. they wrote me back and said they have no more left anywhere.

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/51 "2009-09-10T06:03:49Z")

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> [@"First iPhone Pictures, I rule!!"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-iphone-pictures-i-rule/22805/3):
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> The MB quart amp has literally 111x the distortion of the Zapco.
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> The Tube amp has 555x the distortion.
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> You do realize this right?

yea, but that millbert just sounds absurdly good. i never heard anything that nice and natural sounding before(other than real life instruments).

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**Author:** ![THE\_ARS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_ars/32/6564_2.png) [@THE\_ARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/THE_ARS)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/52 "2009-09-27T18:51:38Z")

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> [@"First iPhone Pictures, I rule!!"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-iphone-pictures-i-rule/22805/3):
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> The MB quart amp has literally 111x the distortion of the Zapco.
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> The Tube amp has 555x the distortion.
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> You do realize this right?

:crazy

Brother, when you hear it you will know. It’s expensive for a reason.

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**Author:** ![97cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/c5a1d2/32.png) [@97cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97cavy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/53 "2009-09-28T17:07:33Z")

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That reason being rich people buy expensive stuff because they believe its superior just because it costs more

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/54 "2009-09-28T19:25:47Z")

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> [@WTB Chevy 2wd 5x5 rim](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-chevy-2wd-5x5-rim/23503/4):
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> That reason being rich people buy expensive stuff because they believe its superior just because it costs more

in some cases thats true

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