# This kid claims to love "systems" but...

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 7, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627 "2009-09-07T14:32:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-kid-claims-to-love-systems-but/246627/46 "2009-09-08T15:37:51Z")

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> [@i need to find random song?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-need-to-find-random-song/22679/11):
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> eventually i’d like to step up to full tube amps. ive been eyeing millberts for a while now, but their current equipment requires at least a 5000 dollar investment to get jsut 4 channels to go. i dont have that much right now. i need to call them again and bug them about the new amp they have told me about.

Tube amplifiers are archaic 1950’s technology. Expensive tube amplifiers are a very interesting animal indeed. You are literally paying money for distortion. The tube sound is just distortion that just so happens to have the correct harmonics to “sound smooth”. So if you want to spend money for an amplifier that literally produces 10-100x more distortion than an equivalent solid state amp be my guest. Many people indeed do like the sound. However with DSP you could create that exact sound cheaper with a solid state voltage amplifier.

I would recommend this for a 4 channel amplifier.  
[http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp\_prods/c2k25Frame.htm](http://www.zapco.com/prod/comp_prods/c2k25Frame.htm)

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