# Thoughts about the Iraq situation.

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**Created:** [September 6, 2005, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085 "2005-09-06T09:29:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/21 "2005-09-06T11:53:22Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> it takes longer than 2 years to organize a country/government and its people who have been oppressed since the beginning of time.
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> i’m sorry, but there is no instant gratification. how long do you think it took to get germany up and running after WWII? a week or 2 maybe?  
> this isnt sim city.
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> edit: maybe there is a cheat bush can type in at the console that will speed things along

it is not ok to invade a country for oil

plain and simple, and we all know we didnt invade due to human rights issues…

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/22 "2005-09-06T11:55:00Z")

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thats a matter of opinion

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/23 "2005-09-06T11:55:35Z")

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we invaded iraq?

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**Author:** ![Diesel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/diesel/32/7313_2.png) [@Diesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Diesel)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/24 "2005-09-06T12:12:05Z")

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Why is it our responsibility to fix up their shithole at the cost of american lives?

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/25 "2005-09-06T13:33:52Z")

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because we NEED their natural resosuces. by stablizing the area and putting the right people in power we can get them easier and cheaper.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/26 "2005-09-06T13:47:25Z")

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So are you saying that we were basically lied to? 😉

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/27 "2005-09-06T14:32:05Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> because we NEED their natural resosuces. by stablizing the area and putting the right people in power we can get them easier and cheaper.

im sure lower gas prices is extremely important to the families of the soldiers over there/killed, and to the soldiers being killed. :bloated:

this is about bush’s personal agenda, finishing his old mans job.

Never once, when we were going into Iraq did I hear anything about stabilizing the area so we can get cheaper resources. It was about “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. It was only after Bush was found to be a fraud, it was about natural resources. If from the beggining he said it was about oil, no one, especially congress would have let it fly. Plain, and simple.

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**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/28 "2005-09-06T15:25:25Z")

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wheres the choice for “I dont give a fuck”?

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**Author:** ![PitLord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pitlord/32/7584_2.png) [@PitLord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PitLord)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/29 "2005-09-06T15:58:09Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> edit: maybe there is a cheat bush can type in at the console that will speed things along

I think the code is NUKE…

but seriously, there are things that none of us will ever know about the situation. To say that Bush is “finishing his dad’s job” is just dumb. Saddam had been a problem long before bush senior got into it and had become a problem again, unfortunatly it happened to be bush jr the shit got stuck on. the administration in the middle was known to be rather limp wristed and let things get out of control.

That isn’t to say I agree 100% with the handling of the the rebuilding process there but we have to understand that there is a huge cultural difference that we are trying to bridge and set up a government that can be beneficial to everyone in the world, including the iraqis. The only other alternative would have been to simply take over and brow beat them into submission. Either way it would take MANY years for things to become comfortable there. We still have very active bases in both the Philippines and Germany even tho tensions have greatly relaxed in both areas.

In the end there is a little patriot inside me that can’t simply say that Bush is wrong…

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/30 "2005-09-07T00:20:12Z")

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> [@sureshot!](#):
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> i wasnt against going into afganistan.
> 
> i was always against going into iraq
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> im not against going into jessica alba

:word: x3

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/31 "2005-09-07T01:58:30Z")

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against it in the beginning.

for it now.

only because we are FUCKED if we leave now.

i have my thoughts on it all after spending a year here, but i will save that post for another day once i am home and have retired the uniform.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/32 "2005-09-07T05:30:06Z")

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^  
you are there, i would like to hear your thoughts on what would happen to the country/government/region if we decided to pull out now.

beckinton, no they never said that. this goes back to people being more or less ignorant. how many americans do you believe understand global economics?  
its not the only reason we are there, but it is a big part of it.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/33 "2005-09-07T07:27:37Z")

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I like how no matter what side you take about the war almost all of us can agree that Bush is a liar. :tup:

What I hate is that Clinton lied about getting his knob sucked in the oval office and he was impeached. Bush lies about why we need to invade iraq nothing happens.

I think one is more important than the other. I let you guys decide.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/34 "2005-09-07T07:46:34Z")

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i think making a mockery of the presidency and a fool of yourself and our country is a pretty big fuck up. oh, and adultery is a felony in most states.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/35 "2005-09-07T07:49:45Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> i think making a mockery of the presidency and a fool of yourself and our country is a pretty big fuck up. oh, and adultery is a felony in most states.

ya because no other president fucked around…

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/36 "2005-09-07T07:57:47Z")

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i didnt say that, but they were smart enough to not get caught

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/37 "2005-09-07T08:20:48Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> i think making a mockery of the presidency and a fool of yourself and our country is a pretty big fuck up.

And how hasn’t our current president done that?

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/38 "2005-09-07T08:30:07Z")

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how has he?  
please make points… dont leave it open ended.

we already pointed out where our previous president commited a felony. did president bush?

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/39 "2005-09-07T08:37:47Z")

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lol burn

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-about-the-iraq-situation/2085/40 "2005-09-07T08:41:12Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> how has he?  
> please make points… dont leave it open ended.
> 
> we already pointed out where our previous president commited a felony. did president bush?

hrmm using lies to invade Iraq after already invading Afganistan. Some might call it a “war on terrorism” others might call it genocide.

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